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- In article Anv@newcastle.ac.uk, Karl.Glazebrook@durham.ac.uk (Karl Glazebrook) writes:
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- >In article I29@newcastle.ac.uk, Karl.Glazebrook@durham.ac.uk (Karl Glazebrook) writes:
- >>Anybody know where I can get the full text of this extract from my Cookies file ? :
- >>Some quotes from "Real Programmers Don't Use PASCAL" by Ed Post:
- >>
- >
- >Thanks everybody for the response - I now have it. Anybody
- >who wants a copy please mail me.
- >
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- Since the demand is so overwhelming and I'm leaving town tomorrow for a week
- I'm posting it here and to hell with the network traffic.
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- If you mail me please consider yourself replied too!
-
- Thanks everybody,
-
- Karl
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- From: mbvg@nl.tno.bouw.sparc-31 (Martin van Gijzen)
- Subject: Real Programmers
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- "Real Programmers Don't Use PASCAL"
-
-
- Ed Post
-
- Graphic Software Systems
- P.O. Box 673
- 25117 S.W. Parkway
- Wilsonville, OR 97070
-
- Copyright (c) 1982
-
- (decvax | ucbvax | cbosg | pur-ee | lbl-unix)!teklabs!ogcvax!gss1144!evp
-
- Back in the good old days -- the "Golden Era" of computers, it was easy
- to separate the men from the boys (sometimes called "Real Men" and "Quiche
- Eaters" in the literature). During this period, the Real Men were the ones that
- understood computer programming, and the Quiche Eaters were the ones that
- didn't. A real computer programmer said things like "DO 10 I=1,10" and "ABEND"
- (they actually talked in capital letters, you understand), and the rest of the
- world said things like "computers are too complicated for me" and "I can't
- relate to computers -- they're so impersonal". (A previous work [1] points out
- that Real Men don't "relate" to anything, and aren't afraid of being
- impersonal.)
-
- But, as usual, times change. We are faced today with a world in which
- little old ladies can get computers in their microwave ovens, 12-year-old kids
- can blow Real Men out of the water playing Asteroids and Pac-Man, and anyone
- can buy and even understand their very own Personal Computer. The Real
- Programmer is in danger of becoming extinct, of being replaced by high-school
- students with TRASH-80's.
-
- There is a clear need to point out the differences between the typical
- high-school junior Pac-Man player and a Real Programmer. If this difference is
- made clear, it will give these kids something to aspire to -- a role model, a
- Father Figure. It will also help explain to the employers of Real Programmers
- why it would be a mistake to replace the Real Programmers on their staff with
- 12-year-old Pac-Man players (at a considerable salary savings).
-
-
- LANGUAGES
- ---------
-
- The easiest way to tell a Real Programmer from the crowd is by the
- programming language he (or she) uses. Real Programmers use FORTRAN. Quiche
- Eaters use PASCAL. Nicklaus Wirth, the designer of PASCAL, gave a talk once at
- which he was asked "How do you pronounce your name?". He replied, "You can
- either call me by name, pronouncing it 'Veert', or call me by value, 'Worth'."
- One can tell immediately from this comment that Nicklaus Wirth is a Quiche
- Eater. The only parameter passing mechanism endorsed by Real Programmers is
- call-by-value-return, as implemented in the IBM\370 FORTRAN-G and H compilers.
- Real programmers don't need all these abstract concepts to get their jobs done
- -- they are perfectly happy with a keypunch, a FORTRAN IV compiler, and a beer.
-
- * Real Programmers do List Processing in FORTRAN.
-
- * Real Programmers do String Manipulation in FORTRAN.
-
- * Real Programmers do Accounting (if they do it at all) in FORTRAN.
-
- * Real Programmers do Artificial Intelligence programs in FORTRAN.
-
- If you can't do it in FORTRAN, do it in assembly language. If you can't do it
- in assembly language, it isn't worth doing.
-
-
-
-
-
- STRUCTURED PROGRAMMING
- ----------------------
-
- The academics in computer science have gotten into the "structured
- programming" rut over the past several years. They claim that programs are more
- easily understood if the programmer uses some special language constructs and
- techniques. They don't all agree on exactly which constructs, of course, and
- the examples they use to show their particular point of view invariably fit on
- a single page of some obscure journal or another -- clearly not enough of an
- example to convince anyone. When I got out of school, I thought I was the best
- programmer in the world. I could write an unbeatable tic-tac-toe program, use
- five different computer languages, and create 1000-line programs that WORKED.
- (Really!) Then I got out into the Real World. My first task in the Real World
- was to read and understand a 200,000-line FORTRAN program, then speed it up by
- a factor of two. Any Real Programmer will tell you that all the Structured
- Coding in the world won't help you solve a problem like that -- it takes actual
- talent. Some quick observations on Real Programmers and Structured Programming:
-
- * Real Programmers aren't afraid to use GOTO's.
-
- * Real Programmers can write five-page-long DO loops without
- getting confused.
-
- * Real Programmers like Arithmetic IF statements -- they make the
- code more interesting.
-
- * Real Programmers write self-modifying code, especially if they can
- save 20 nanoseconds in the middle of a tight loop.
-
- * Real Programmers don't need comments -- the code is obvious.
-
- * Since FORTRAN doesn't have a structured IF, REPEAT ... UNTIL, or
- CASE statement, Real Programmers don't have to worry about not
- using them. Besides, they can be simulated when necessary using
- assigned GOTO's.
-
- Data Structures have also gotten a lot of press lately. Abstract Data
- Types, Structures, Pointers, Lists, and Strings have become popular in certain
- circles. Wirth (the above-mentioned Quiche Eater) actually wrote an entire book
- [2] contending that you could write a program based on data structures, instead
- of the other way around. As all Real Programmers know, the only useful data
- structure is the Array. Strings, lists, structures, sets -- these are all
- special cases of arrays and can be treated that way just as easily without
- messing up your programing language with all sorts of complications. The worst
- thing about fancy data types is that you have to declare them, and Real
- Programming Languages, as we all know, have implicit typing based on the first
- letter of the (six character) variable name.
-
-
-
-
-
-
-
-
- OPERATING SYSTEMS
- -----------------
-
- What kind of operating system is used by a Real Programmer? CP/M? God
- forbid -- CP/M, after all, is basically a toy operating system. Even little
- old ladies and grade school students can understand and use CP/M.
-
- Unix is a lot more complicated of course -- the typical Unix hacker
- never can remember what the PRINT command is called this week -- but when it
- gets right down to it, Unix is a glorified video game. People don't do Serious
- Work on Unix systems: they send jokes around the world on UUCP-net and write
- adventure games and research papers.
-
- No, your Real Programmer uses OS\370. A good programmer can find and
- understand the description of the IJK305I error he just got in his JCL manual.
- A great programmer can write JCL without referring to the manual at all. A
- truly outstanding programmer can find bugs buried in a 6 megabyte core dump
- without using a hex calculator. (I have actually seen this done.)
-
- OS is a truly remarkable operating system. It's possible to destroy
- days of work with a single misplaced space, so alertness in the programming
- staff is encouraged. The best way to approach the system is through a keypunch.
- Some people claim there is a Time Sharing system that runs on OS\370, but after
- careful study I have come to the conclusion that they were mistaken.
-
-
- PROGRAMMING TOOLS
- ----------------
-
- What kind of tools does a Real Programmer use? In theory, a Real
- Programmer could run his programs by keying them into the front panel of the
- computer. Back in the days when computers had front panels, this was actually
- done occasionally. Your typical Real Programmer knew the entire bootstrap
- loader by memory in hex, and toggled it in whenever it got destroyed by his
- program. (Back then, memory was memory -- it didn't go away when the power went
- off. Today, memory either forgets things when you don't want it to, or
- remembers things long after they're better forgotten.) Legend has it that
- Seymore Cray, inventor of the Cray I supercomputer and most of Control Data's
- computers, actually toggled the first operating system for the CDC7600 in on
- the front panel from memory when it was first powered on. Seymore, needless to
- say, is a Real Programmer.
-
- One of my favorite Real Programmers was a systems programmer for Texas
- Instruments. One day he got a long distance call from a user whose system had
- crashed in the middle of saving some important work. Jim was able to repair the
- damage over the phone, getting the user to toggle in disk I/O instructions at
- the front panel, repairing system tables in hex, reading register contents back
- over the phone. The moral of this story: while a Real Programmer usually
- includes a keypunch and lineprinter in his toolkit, he can get along with just
- a front panel and a telephone in emergencies.
-
-
-
-
-
-
-
- In some companies, text editing no longer consists of ten engineers
- standing in line to use an 029 keypunch. In fact, the building I work in
- doesn't contain a single keypunch. The Real Programmer in this situation has to
- do his work with a "text editor" program. Most systems supply several text
- editors to select from, and the Real Programmer must be careful to pick one
- that reflects his personal style. Many people believe that the best text
- editors in the world were written at Xerox Palo Alto Research Center for use on
- their Alto and Dorado computers [3]. Unfortunately, no Real Programmer would
- ever use a computer whose operating system is called SmallTalk, and would
- certainly not talk to the computer with a mouse.
-
- Some of the concepts in these Xerox editors have been incorporated into
- editors running on more reasonably named operating systems -- EMACS and VI
- being two. The problem with these editors is that Real Programmers consider
- "what you see is what you get" to be just as bad a concept in Text Editors as
- it is in women. No the Real Programmer wants a "you asked for it, you got it"
- text editor -- complicated, cryptic, powerful, unforgiving, dangerous. TECO, to
- be precise.
-
- It has been observed that a TECO command sequence more closely
- resembles transmission line noise than readable text [4]. One of the more
- entertaining games to play with TECO is to type your name in as a command line
- and try to guess what it does. Just about any possible typing error while
- talking with TECO will probably destroy your program, or even worse --
- introduce subtle and mysterious bugs in a once working subroutine.
-
- For this reason, Real Programmers are reluctant to actually edit a
- program that is close to working. They find it much easier to just patch the
- binary object code directly, using a wonderful program called SUPERZAP (or its
- equivalent on non-IBM machines). This works so well that many working programs
- on IBM systems bear no relation to the original FORTRAN code. In many cases,
- the original source code is no longer available. When it comes time to fix a
- program like this, no manager would even think of sending anything less than a
- Real Programmer to do the job -- no Quiche Eating structured programmer would
- even know where to start. This is called "job security".
-
- Some programming tools NOT used by Real Programmers:
-
- * FORTRAN preprocessors like MORTRAN and RATFOR. The Cuisinarts of
- programming -- great for making Quiche. See comments above on
- structured programming.
-
- * Source language debuggers. Real Programmers can read core dumps.
-
- * Compilers with array bounds checking. They stifle creativity, destroy
- most of the interesting uses for EQUIVALENCE, and make it impossible
- to modify the operating system code with negative subscripts. Worst of
- all, bounds checking is inefficient.
-
- * Source code maintenance systems. A Real Programmer keeps his code
- locked up in a card file, because it implies that its owner cannot
- leave his important programs unguarded [5].
-
-
-
-
-
-
-
- THE REAL PROGRAMMER AT WORK
- ---------------------------
-
- Where does the typical Real Programmer work? What kind of programs are
- worthy of the efforts of so talented an individual? You can be sure that no
- Real Programmer would be caught dead writing accounts-receivable programs in
- COBOL, or sorting mailing lists for People magazine. A Real Programmer wants
- tasks of earth-shaking importance (literally!).
-
- * Real Programmers work for Los Alamos National Laboratory, writing
- atomic bomb simulations to run on Cray I supercomputers.
-
- * Real Programmers work for the National Security Agency, decoding
- Russian transmissions.
-
- * It was largely due to the efforts of thousands of Real Programmers
- working for NASA that our boys got to the moon and back before
- the Russkies.
-
- * Real Programmers are at work for Boeing designing the operating
- systems for cruise missiles.
-
- Some of the most awesome Real Programmers of all work at the Jet
- Propulsion Laboratory in California. Many of them know the entire operating
- system of the Pioneer and Voyager spacecraft by heart. With a combination of
- large ground-based FORTRAN programs and small spacecraft-based assembly
- language programs, they are able to do incredible feats of navigation and
- improvisation -- hitting ten-kilometer wide windows at Saturn after six years
- in space, repairing or bypassing damaged sensor platforms, radios, and
- batteries. Allegedly, one Real Programmer managed to tuck a pattern-matching
- program into a few hundred bytes of unused memory in a Voyager spacecraft that
- searched for, located, and photographed a new moon of Jupiter.
-
- The current plan for the Galileo spacecraft is to use a gravity assist
- trajectory past Mars on the way to Jupiter. This trajectory passes within 80
- +/-3 kilometers of the surface of Mars. Nobody is going to trust a PASCAL
- program (or a PASCAL programmer) for navigation to these tolerances.
-
- As you can tell, many of the world's Real Programmers work for the U.S.
- Government -- mainly the Defense Department. This is as it should be.
- Recently, however, a black cloud has formed on the Real Programmer horizon. It
- seems that some highly placed Quiche Eaters at the Defense Department decided
- that all Defense programs should be written in some grand unified language
- called "ADA" ((C), DoD). For a while, it seemed that ADA was destined to
- become a language that went against all the precepts of Real Programming -- a
- language with structure, a language with data types, strong typing, and
- semicolons. In short, a language designed to cripple the creativity of the
- typical Real Programmer. Fortunately, the language adopted by DoD has enough
- interesting features to make it approachable -- it's incredibly complex,
- includes methods for messing with the operating system and rearranging memory,
- and Edsgar Dijkstra doesn't like it [6]. (Dijkstra, as I'm sure you know, was
- the author of "GoTos Considered Harmful" -- a landmark work in programming
- methodology, applauded by PASCAL programmers and Quiche Eaters alike.) Besides,
- the determined Real Programmer can write FORTRAN programs in any language.
-
-
-
-
-
-
-
- The Real Programmer might compromise his principles and work on
- something slightly more trivial than the destruction of life as we know it,
- providing there's enough money in it. There are several Real Programmers
- building video games at Atari, for example. (But not playing them -- a Real
- Programmer knows how to beat the machine every time: no challenge in that.)
- Everyone working at LucasFilm is a Real Programmer. (It would be crazy to turn
- down the money of fifty million Star Trek fans.) The proportion of Real
- Programmers in Computer Graphics is somewhat lower than the norm, mostly
- because nobody has found a use for computer graphics yet. On the other hand,
- all computer graphics is done in FORTRAN, so there are a fair number of people
- doing graphics in order to avoid having to write COBOL programs.
-
- Real Programmers... p. 7
-
-
- THE REAL PROGRAMMER AT PLAY
- ---------------------------
-
- Generally, the Real Programmer plays the same way he works -- with
- computers. He is constantly amazed that his employer actually pays him to do
- what he would be doing for fun anyway (although he is careful not to express
- this opinion out loud). Occasionally, the Real Programmer does step out of the
- office for a breath of fresh air and a beer or two. Some tips on recognizing
- Real Programmers away from the computer room:
-
- * At a party, the Real Programmers are the ones in the corner talking
- about operating system security and how to get around it.
-
- * At a football game, the Real Programmer is the one comparing the plays
- against his simulations printed on 11 by 14 fanfold paper.
-
- * At the beach, the Real Programmer is the one drawing flowcharts in
- the sand.
-
- * At a funeral, the Real Programmer is the one saying "Poor George. And he
- almost had the sort routine working before the coronary."
-
- * In a grocery store, the Real Programmer is the one who insists on running
- the cans past the laser checkout scanner himself, because he never could
- trust keypunch operators to get it right the first time.
-
-
-
-
-
-
- THE REAL PROGRAMMER'S NATURAL HABITAT
- -------------------------------------
-
- What sort of environment does the Real Programmer function best in?
- This is an important question for the managers of Real Programmers. Considering
- the amount of money it costs to keep one on the staff, it's best to put him (or
- her) in an environment where he can get his work done.
-
- The typical Real Programmer lives in front of a computer terminal.
- Surrounding this terminal are:
-
- * Listings of all programs the Real Programmer has ever worked on, piled in
- roughly chronological order on every flat surface in the office.
-
- * Some half-dozen or so partly filled cups of cold coffee. Occasionally,
- there will be cigarette butts floating in the coffee. In some cases,
- the cups will contain Orange Crush.
-
- * Unless he is very good, there will be copies of the OS JCL manual and the
- Principles of Operation open to some particularly interesting pages.
-
- * Taped to the wall is a line-printer Snoopy calendar for the year 1969.
-
- * Strewn about the floor are several wrappers for peanut butter filled
- cheese bars -- the type that are made pre-stale at the bakery so they
- can't get any worse while waiting in the vending machine.
-
- * Hiding in the top left-hand drawer of the desk is a stash of double-stuff
- Oreos for special occasions.
-
- * Underneath the Oreos is a flowcharting template, left there by the
- previous occupant of the office. (Real Programmers write programs, not
- documentation. Leave that to the maintenance people.)
-
-
- The Real Programmer is capable of working 30, 40, even 50 hours at a
- stretch, under intense pressure. In fact, he prefers it that way. Bad response
- time doesn't bother the Real Programmer -- it gives him a chance to catch a
- little sleep between compiles. If there is not enough schedule pressure on the
- Real Programmer, he tends to make things more challenging by working on some
- small but interesting part of the problem for the first nine weeks, then
- finishing the rest in the last week, in two or three 50-hour marathons. This
- not only impresses the hell out of his manager, who was despairing of ever
- getting the project done on time, but creates a convenient excuse for not doing
- the documentation. In general:
-
- * No Real Programmer works 9 to 5 (unless it's the ones at night).
-
- * Real Programmers don't wear neckties.
-
- * Real Programmers don't wear high-heeled shoes.
-
- * Real Programmers arrive at work in time for lunch [9].
-
- * A Real Programmer might or might not know his wife's name. He does,
- however, know the entire ASCII (or EBCDIC) code table.
-
- * Real Programmers don't know how to cook. Grocery stores aren't open at
- three in the morning. Real Programmers survive on Twinkies and coffee.
-
-
-
-
-
-
-
- THE FUTURE
- ----------
-
- What of the future? It is a matter of some concern to Real Programmers
- that the latest generation of computer programmers are not being brought up
- with the same outlook on life as their elders. Many of them have never seen a
- computer with a front panel. Hardly anyone graduating from school these days
- can do hex arithmetic without a calculator. College graduates these days are
- soft -- protected from the realities of programming by source level debuggers,
- text editors that count parentheses, and "user friendly" operating systems.
- Worst of all, some of these alleged "computer scientists" manage to get degrees
- without ever learning FORTRAN! Are we destined to become an industry of Unix
- hackers and PASCAL programmers?
-
- From my experience, I can only report that the future is bright for
- Real Programmers everywhere. Neither OS\370 nor FORTRAN show any signs of dying
- out, despite all the efforts of PASCAL programmers the world over. Even more
- subtle tricks, like adding structured coding constructs to FORTRAN have failed.
- Oh sure, some computer vendors have come out with FORTRAN 77 compilers, but
- every one of them has a way of converting itself back into a FORTRAN 66
- compiler at the drop of an option card -- to compile DO loops like God meant
- them to be.
-
- Even Unix might not be as bad on Real Programmers as it once was. The
- latest release of Unix has the potential of an operating system worthy of any
- Real Programmer -- two different and subtly incompatible user interfaces, an
- arcane and complicated teletype driver, virtual memory. If you ignore the fact
- that it's "structured", even 'C' programming can be appreciated by the Real
- Programmer: after all, there's no type checking, variable names are seven (ten?
- eight?) characters long, and the added bonus of the Pointer data type is thrown
- in -- like having the best parts of FORTRAN and assembly language in one place.
- (Not to mention some of the more creative uses for #define.)
-
- No, the future isn't all that bad. Why, in the past few years, the
- popular press has even commented on the bright new crop of computer nerds and
- hackers ([7] and [8]) leaving places like Stanford and M.I.T. for the Real
- World. From all evidence, the spirit of Real Programming lives on in these
- young men and women. As long as there are ill-defined goals, bizarre bugs,
- and unrealistic schedules, there will be Real Programmers willing to jump in
- and Solve The Problem, saving the documentation for later. Long live FORTRAN!
-
-
- ACKNOWLEGEMENT
- --------------
-
- I would like to thank Jan E., Dave S., Rich G., Rich E., for their help
- in characterizing the Real Programmer, Heather B. for the illustration, Kathy
- E. for putting up with it, and atd!avsdS:mark for the initial inspiration.
-
-
-
-
-
-
-
- REFERENCES
- ----------
-
- [1] Feirstein, B., "Real Men don't Eat Quiche", New
- York, Pocket Books, 1982.
-
- [2] Wirth, N., "Algorithms + Data Structures =
- Programs", Prentice Hall, 1976.
-
- [3] Ilson, R., "Recent Research in Text Processing",
- IEEE Trans. Prof. Commun., Vol. PC-23, No. 4,
- Dec. 4, 1980.
-
- [4] Finseth, C., "Theory and Practice of Text Editors
- -- or -- a Cookbook for an EMACS", B.S. Thesis,
- MIT/LCS/TM-165, Massachusetts Institute of
- Technology, May 1980.
-
- [5] Weinberg, G., "The Psychology of Computer
- Programming", New York, Van Nostrand Reinhold,
- 1971, p. 110.
-
- [6] Dijkstra, E., "On the GREEN language submitted to
- the DoD", Sigplan notices, Vol. 3 No. 10, Oct
- 1978.
-
- [7] Rose, Frank, "Joy of Hacking", Science 82, Vol. 3
- No. 9, Nov 82, pp. 58-66.
-
- [8] "The Hacker Papers", Psychology Today, August 1980.
-
- [9] sdcarl!lin, "Real Programmers", UUCP-net, Thu Oct
- 21 16:55:16 1982
-
-
- From shue@edu.mit.ll Fri Dec 11 14:08:11 1992
- Date: Fri, 11 Dec 92 08:59:54 -0500
- From: David Shue <shue@edu.mit.ll>
- To: Karl.Glazebrook@uk.ac.durham
- Subject: Real Programmer's - Part 2
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- - Real programmers don't write specs. Users should consider
- themselves lucky to get any programs at all and take what they get.
-
- - Real programmers don't comment their code. If it was hard to
- write, it should be hard to read.
- - Real programmers don't write application programs, they pro-
- gram right down on the bare metal. Application programming
- is for feebs who can't do systems programming.
-
- - Real programmers don't eat quiche. Real programmers don't even know how to
- spell quiche. They eat Twinkies, Coke and palate-scorching Szechwan food.
-
- - Real programmers don't draw flowcharts. Flowcharts are, after all, the
- illiterate's form of documentation. Cavemen drew flowcharts; look how
- much it did for them.
-
- - Real programmers don't read manuals. Reliance on a reference is a hallmark
- of the novice and the coward.
-
- - Real programmers programs never work right the first time.
- But if you throw them on the machine they can be patched
- into working in only a few 30-hours debugging sessions.
-
- - Real programmers don't use Fortran. Fortran is for wimpy engineers who
- wear white socks, pipe stress freaks, and crystallography weenies. They
- get excited over finite state analysis and nuclear reactor simulation.
-
- - Real programmers don't use COBOL. COBOL is for wimpy application
- programmers.
-
- - Real programmers never work 9 to 5. If any real programmers
- are around at 9 am, it's because they were up all night.
-
- - Real programmers don't write in BASIC. Actually, no program-
- mers write in BASIC, after the age of 12.
-
- - Real programmers don't document. Documentation is for simps
- who can't read the listings or the object deck.
-
- - Real programmers don't write in Pascal, or Bliss, or Ada, or
- any of those pinko computer science languages. Strong typing
- is for people with weak memories.
-
- - Real programmers know better than the users what they need.
-
- - Real programmers think structured programming is a communist
- plot.
-
- - Real programmers don't use schedules. Schedules are for man-
- ager's toadies. Real programmers like to keep their manager
- in suspense.
-
- - Real programmers think better when playing adventure.
-
- - Real programmers don't use PL/I. PL/I is for insecure momma's boys
- who can't choose between COBOL and Fortran.
-
- - Real programmers don't use APL, unless the whole program can be written
- on one line.
-
- - Real programmers don't use LISP. Only effeminate programmers use more
- parentheses than actual code.
-
- - Real programmers disdain structured programming. Structured programming
- is for compulsive, prematurely toilet-trained neurotics who wear neckties
- and carefully line up sharpened pencils on an otherwise uncluttered desk.
-
- - Real programmers don't like the team programming concept. Unless, of
- course, they are the Chief Programmer.
-
- - Real programmers have no use for managers. Managers are a necessary evil.
- Managers are for dealing with personnel bozos, bean counters, senior
- planners and other mental defectives.
-
- - Real programmers scorn floating point arithmetic. The decimal point was
- invented for pansy bedwetters who are unable to "think big."
-
- - Real programmers don't drive clapped-out Mavericks. They prefer BMWs,
- Lincolns or pick-up trucks with floor shifts. Fast motorcycles are
- highly regarded.
-
- - Real programmers don't believe in schedules. Planners make up schedules.
- Managers "firm up" schedules. Frightened coders strive to meet schedules.
- Real programmers ignore schedules.
-
- - Real programmers like vending machine popcorn. Coders pop it in the
- microwave oven. Real programmers use the heat given off by the cpu.
- They can tell what job is running just by listening to the rate of popping.
-
- - Real programmers know every nuance of every instruction and use them all
- in every real program. Puppy architects won't allow execute instructions
- to address another execute as the target instruction. Real programmers
- despise such petty restrictions.
- - Real programmers don't bring brown bag lunches to work. If the vending
- machine sells it, they eat it. If the vending machine doesn't sell it,
- they don't eat it. Vending machines don't sell quiche.
- - Real programmers know that the word is disk, not disc. Disc is
- a definite commie plot put forth by blubbering quiche eaters.
-
-
-
- From shue@edu.mit.ll Fri Dec 11 14:09:01 1992
- Date: Fri, 11 Dec 92 09:00:03 -0500
- From: David Shue <shue@edu.mit.ll>
- To: Karl.Glazebrook@uk.ac.durham
- Subject: More Amusing Stuff
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- Status: RO
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- T h e V O G O N N e w s S e r v i c e
-
- VNS TECHNOLOGY WATCH: [Mike Taylor, VNS Correspondent
- ]
- ===================== [Littleton, MA, USA
- ]
-
- COMPUTERWORLD 1 April
-
- CREATORS ADMIT UNIX, C HOAX
-
- In an announcement that has stunned the computer industry, Ken Thompson,
- Dennis Ritchie and Brian Kernighan admitted that the Unix operating
- system and C programming language created by them is an elaborate April
- Fools prank kept alive for over 20 years. Speaking at the recent
- UnixWorld Software Development Forum, Thompson revealed the following:
-
- "In 1969, AT&T had just terminated their work with the GE/Honeywell/AT&T
- Multics project. Brian and I had just started working with an early
- release of Pascal from Professor Nichlaus Wirth's ETH labs in
- Switzerland and we were impressed with its elegant simplicity and
- power. Dennis had just finished reading 'Bored of the Rings', a
- hilarious National Lampoon parody of the great Tolkien 'Lord of the
- Rings' trilogy. As a lark, we decided to do parodies of the Multics
- environment and Pascal. Dennis and I were responsible for the operating
- environment. We looked at Multics and designed the new system to be as
- complex and cryptic as possible to maximize casual users' frustration
- levels, calling it Unix as a parody of Multics, as well as other more
- risque allusions. Then Dennis and Brian worked on a truly warped
- version of Pascal, called 'A'. When we found others were actually
- trying to create real programs with A, we quickly added additional
- cryptic features and evolved into B, BCPL and finally C. We stopped
- when we got a clean compile on the following syntax:
-
- for(;P("\n"),R-;P("|"))for(e=C;e-;P("_"+(*u++/8)%2))P("| "+(*u/4)%2);
-
- To think that modern programmers would try to use a language that
- allowed such a statement was beyond our comprehension! We actually
- thought of selling this to the Soviets to set their computer science
- progress back 20 or more years. Imagine our surprise when AT&T and
- other US corporations actually began trying to use Unix and C! It has
- taken them 20 years to develop enough expertise to generate even
- marginally useful applications using this 1960's technological parody,
- but we are impressed with the tenacity (if not common sense) of the
- general Unix and C programmer. In any event, Brian, Dennis and I have
- been working exclusively in Pascal on the Apple Macintosh for the past
- few years and feel really guilty about the chaos, confusion and truly
- bad programming that have resulted from our silly prank so long ago."
-
- Major Unix and C vendors and customers, including AT&T, Microsoft,
- Hewlett-Packard, GTE, NCR, and DEC have refused comment at this time.
- Borland International, a leading vendor of Pascal and C tools,
- including the popular Turbo Pascal, Turbo C and Turbo C++, stated they
- had suspected this for a number of years and would continue to enhance
- their Pascal products and halt further efforts to develop C. An IBM
- spokesman broke into uncontrolled laughter and had to postpone a
- hastily convened news conference concerning the fate of the RS-6000,
- merely stating 'VM will be available Real Soon Now'. In a cryptic
- statement, Professor Wirth of the ETH institute and father of the
- Pascal, Modula 2 and Oberon structured languages, merely stated that P.
- T. Barnum was correct.
-
- In a related late-breaking story, usually reliable sources are stating
- that a similar confession may be forthcoming from William Gates
- concerning the MS-DOS and Windows operating environments. And IBM
- spokesman have begun denying that the Virtual Machine (VM) product is
- an internal prank gone awry.
- {COMPUTERWORLD 1 April}
- {contributed by Bernard L. Hayes}
-
- <><><><><><><><> VNS Edition : 2336 Tuesday 4-Jun-1991 <><><><><><><><>
-
- Real Computer Scientists Don't Write Code
-
- Real Computer Scientists don't write code. They occasionally
- tinker with programming systems, but those are so high level that
- they hardly count (and rarely count accurately, precision is for
- applications).
-
- Real Computer Scientists don't comment their code. The
- identifiers are so long they can't afford the disk space.
-
- Real Computer Scientists don't write the user interface, they
- merely argue about what they should look like.
-
- Real Computer Scientists don't eat quiche. They shun Schezuan
- food since the hackers discovered it. Many Real Computer Scientists
- consider eating an implementation detail. (Others break down and eat
- with the hackers, but only if they can have ice cream for dessert).
-
- If it doesn't have a programming environment complete with
- interactive debugger, structure editor and extensive cross module
- type checking, Real Computer Scientists won't be seen tinkering with
- it. They may have to use it to balance their checkbooks, as their own
- systems can't.
-
- Real Computer Scientists don't program in assembler. They
- don't write in anything less portable than a number two pencil.
-
- Real Computer Scientists don't debug programs, they
- dynamically modify them. This is safer, since no one has invented a
- way to do anything dynamic to FORTRAN, COBOL or BASIC.
-
- Real Computer Scientists like C's structured constructs, but
- they are suspicious of it because it's compiled. (Only Batch Freaks
- and Efficiency Weirdos bother with compilers, they're soooo un-
- dynamic).
-
- Real Computer Scientists play Go. They have nothing against
- the concept of mountain climbing, but the actual climbing is an
- implementation detail best left to programmers.
-
- Real Computer Scientists admire ADA for its overwhelming
- esthetic value, but they find it difficult to actually program in, as
- it is much too large to implement. Most Computer Scientists don't
- notice this because they are still arguing over what else to add to
- ADA.
-
- Real Computer Scientists work from 5 pm to 9 am because
- that's the only time they can get the 8 megabytes of main memory they
- need to edit specs. (Real work starts around 2 am when enough MIPS
- are free for their dynamic systems). Real Computer Scientists find it
- hard to share 3081s when they are doing 'REAL' work.
-
- Real Computer Scientists only write specs for languages that
- might run on future hardware. Nobody trusts them to write specs for
- anything Homo Sapiens will ever be able to fit on a single planet.
-
- Real Computer Scientists like planning their own environments
- to use bit mapped graphics. Bit mapped graphics is great because no
- one can afford it, so their systems can be experimental.
-
- Real Computer Scientists regret the existence of PL/1, PASCAL
- and LISP. ADA is getting there, but it still allows people to make
- mistakes.
-
- Real Computer Scientists love the concept of users. Users are
- always real impressed by the stuff computer scientists are talking
- about; it sure sounds better than the stuff they are being forced to
- use now.
-
- Real Computer Scientists despise the idea of actual hardware.
- Hardware has limitations, software doesn't. It's a real shame that
- Turing machines are so poor at I/O.
-
- Real Computer Scientists love conventions. No one is expected
- to lug a 3081 attached to a bit map screen to a convention, so no one
- will ever know how slow their systems run.
-
-
- Real Software Engineers Don't Read Dumps
-
- Real Software Engineers don't read dumps. They never generate
- them, and on the rare occasions that they come across them, they are
- vaguely amused.
-
- Real Software Engineers don't comment their code. The
- identifiers are so mnemonic they don't have to.
-
- Real Software Engineers don't write applications programs,
- they implement algorithms. If someone has an application that the
- algorithm might help with, that's nice. Don't ask them to write the
- user interface, though.
-
- Real Software Engineers eat quiche.
-
- If it doesn't have recursive function calls, Real Software
- Engineers don't program in it.
-
- Real Software Engineers don't program in assembler. They
- become queasy at the very thought.
-
- Real Software Engineers don't debug programs, they verify
- correctness. This process doesn't necessarily involve executing
- anything on a computer, except perhaps a Correctness Verification Aid
- package.
-
- Real Software Engineers like C's structured constructs, but
- they are suspicious of it because they have heard that it lets you
- get "close to the machine."
-
- Real Software Engineers play tennis. In general, they don't
- like any sport that involves getting hot and sweaty and gross when
- out of range of a shower. (Thus mountain climbing is Right Out). They
- will occasionally wear their tennis togs to work, but only on very
- sunny days.
-
- Real Software Engineers admire PASCAL for its discipline and
- Spartan purity, but they find it difficult to actually program in.
- They don't tell this to their friends, because they are afraid it
- means they are somehow Unworthy.
-
- Real Software Engineers work from 9 to 5, because that is the
- way the job is described in the formal spec. Working late would feel
- like using an undocumented external procedure.
-
- Real Software Engineers write in languages that have not
- actually been implemented for any machine, and for which only the
- formal spec (in BNF) is available. This keeps them from having to
- take any machine dependencies into account. Machine dependencies make
- Real Software Engineers very uneasy.
-
- Real Software Engineers don't write in ADA, because the
- standards bodies have not quite decided on a formal spec yet.
-
- Real Software Engineers like writing their own compilers,
- preferably in PROLOG (they also like writing them in unimplemented
- languages, but it turns out to be difficult to actually RUN these).
-
- Real Software Engineers regret the existence of COBOL,
- FORTRAN and BASIC; PL/1 is getting there, but it is not nearly
- disciplined enough; far too much built-in function.
-
- Real Software Engineers aren't too happy about the existence
- of users, either. Users always seem to have the wrong idea about what
- the implementation and verification of algorithms is all about.
-
- Real Software Engineers don't like the idea of some
- inexplicable and greasy hardware several aisles away that may stop
- working at any moment. They have a great distrust of hardware people,
- and wish that systems could be virtual at ALL levels. They would like
- personal computers (you know no one's going to trip over something
- and kill your DFA in mid-transit), execpt that they need 8 megabytes
- to run their Correctness Verification Aid packages.
-
- Real Software Engineers think better while playing WFF 'N'
- PROOF.
-
- Real Programmers Don't Write Specs.
-
- Real Programmers don't write specs -- users should consider
- themselves lucky to get any programs at all and take what they get.
-
- Real Programmers don't comment their code. If it was hard to
- write, it should be hard to understand.
-
- Real Programmers don't write application programs, they
- program down to the bare metal. Application programming is for feebs
- who can't do systems programming.
-
- Real Programmers don't eat quiche. They eat Twinkies, and
- Szechwan food.
-
- Real Programmers don't write in COBOL. COBOL is for wimpy
- applications programmers.
-
- Real Programmers' programs never work right the first time.
- But if you throw them on the machine they can be patched into working
- in "only a few" 30-hour debugging sessions.
-
- Real Programmers don't write in FORTRAN. FORTRAN is for pipe
- stress freaks and crystallography weenies.
-
- Real Programmers don't work 9 to 5. If any Real Programmers
- are around at 9 AM, it's because they were up all night.
-
- Real Programmers don't write in BASIC. Actually, no
- programmers write in BASIC, after the age of 12.
-
- Real Programmers don't write in PL/1. PL/1 is for programmers
- who can't decide whether to write in COBOL or FORTRAN.
-
- Real Programmers don't write in APL. Any fool can be obscure
- in APL.
-
- Real Programmers don't play tennis, or any other sport that
- requires you to change clothes. Mountain climbing is OK, and Real
- Programmers wear their climbing boots to work in case a mountain
- should suddenly spring up in the middle of the machine room.
-
- Real Programmers don't write in PASCAL, or BLISS, or ADA, or
- any of those pinko computer science languages. Strong typing is for
- people with weak memories.
-
- Real Programmers know better than the users what they need.
-
- Real Programmers think structured programming is a communist
- plot.
-
- Real Programmers don't use schedules. Schedules are for
- manager's toadies. Real Programmers like to keep their managers in
- suspense.
-
- Real Programmers think better while playing ADVENTURE.
-
- Real Programmers do it middle-out.
-
- Real Programmers enjoy machine coding PASCAL compilers for
- their micros which they improve but never use.
- or
- Real Programmers enjoy getting CP/M to work on 370 machines
- and MVS on their ZX81s.
-
- Real Programmers write their own assemblers, preferably in
- LISP.
-
- Real Programmers never get annoyed by security systems, they
- turn off the RACF bits and leave unsigned messages in the security
- data sets.
-
- Real Programmers never update the source to reflect the ZAPs,
- after all, it will have changed again tomorrow.
-
-
-
-
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