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- From: mfeldman@seas.gwu.edu (Michael Feldman)
- Subject: Re: Why HOL?
- Message-ID: <1992Dec17.172436.17195@seas.gwu.edu>
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- Date: Thu, 17 Dec 1992 17:24:36 GMT
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- In article <5sqwVB1w165w@netlink.cts.com> mshapiro@netlink.cts.com (Michael Shapiro) writes:
- >Why is Ada called a "High Order Language" (HOL) instead of a
- >"High Level Language" (HLL) like nearly every other language
- >I've seen described?
- >
- [stuff deleted]
- >
- >"Because they thought they were inventing something new with Ada and
- >didn't want to use anyone else's jargon."
-
- Computer people are too cynical. This dichotomy of jargon has been around
- as far back as I can remember, which is my junior year in college (1964).
- I think it's as simple as the fact that government folks and the rest of
- us didn't speak to each other all that much, and each community went its
- own way.
-
- The government (not just DoD, if I recall), used to refer to ADP for
- Automatic Data Processing, while the rest of the world referred to
- EDP for Electronic Data Processing, and HOL where the rest of us
- would say HLL. As an example, the original study group (1973, if I recall)
- whose work resulted in Ada was called HOLWG for High-Order Language Working
- Group. The use of HOL was simply standard terminology for DoD, and
- had zero to do with the new language they ended up inventing. Fortran
- and JOVIAL were (still are) also HOL's.
-
- As far as I can tell, there is absolutely no reason for the dichotomy;
- it's just two different dialects of American techno-speak.
-
- My first trip to Boston was in 1961. We stopped at a diner and I
- ordered a milkshake. I got milk with chocolate syrup. What I wanted
- was a nice thick thing with ice cream in it, which we Philadelphians
- call a milkshake. In Boston that was called a frappe.
-
- Why do the Brits call a windshield a windscreen? Why is Pepsi an
- instance of the class "soda" in the East but "pop" in the West.
-
- It's futile to look, after the fact, for rationales of things that are
- just accidents.
-
- After this diatribe, I promise to eat lots of crow if one of my DoD
- friends writes back to explain that there really _was_ a reason :-)
-
- Mike Feldman
-