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- From: mfeldman@seas.gwu.edu (Michael Feldman)
- Subject: Re: FORTRAN bug(was Re: C++ vs. Ada -- Is Ada loosing?)
- Message-ID: <1992Dec15.024340.22575@seas.gwu.edu>
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- Organization: George Washington University
- References: <1992Dec11.132942.24054@mksol.dseg.ti.com> <1992Dec11.213147.24000@seas.gwu.edu> <1992Dec14.170421.18709@mksol.dseg.ti.com>
- Date: Tue, 15 Dec 1992 02:43:40 GMT
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- In article <1992Dec14.170421.18709@mksol.dseg.ti.com> mccall@mksol.dseg.ti.com (fred j mccall 575-3539) writes:
- >
- >I agree. I feel the same way about Ada, by the way. There's simply
- >too much there to be teaching it to people as a first language.
- Well, you're certainly entitled to your opinion. Those of us who are
- actually _doing_ it, and (most of) our students, like what they see.
-
- We don't tell the students what a verbose, hairy, big, risky dinosaur
- Ada is, so they somehow get the impression they can learn it. And they do.
-
- We teach our infant children a subset of English (or German, or whatever),
- and we teach our freshmen a subset of Ada. They learn the rest as they
- grow up. It's a language you can grow into.
- >
- >Pascal tends to be a somewhat more appropriate choice for a first
- >language. It's a nice protected environment with a limited set of
- >features.
- The downside is that vanilla Pascal (the ISO standard version) is much
- too underpowered for the software engineering stuff (like separate
- compilation) we want to do, even with first-years. So many teachers go
- with Turbo. Only trouble is, Philippe has decided that Turbo for Unix
- isn't worth his trouble, so yanking the kids off their PC's onto the
- Unix boxes in the lab is impossible unless they switch to C...or Ada.
-
- Mike Feldman
-