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- Date: Wed, 16 Dec 1992 03:05:43 GMT
- From: sullivan@warschawski.geom.umn.edu (John M. Sullivan)
- Newsgroups: comp.dcom.telecom
- Subject: 510-613 vs 613-NNX
- Message-ID: <telecom12.907.7@eecs.nwu.edu>
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- A friend in area code 510 (East Bay, CA) reports an interesting new
- problem. He used to call Ottawa by dialing 1-613-XXX-XXXX, but
- evidently there is a new exchange 510-613. Now dialing gets
- interrupted after 1-613-XXX-X with the usual inane message "we're
- sorry, it is not necessary to dial a `1' when calling that number.
- please ..." An MCI operator was able to connect him to Canada.
-
- I don't know what the history in CA of optional/required 1+ for
- intra-NPA toll calls is. I'm not sure if the 510-613 exchange is as
- recent as the message (last few days), or if they merely changed some
- software. I suggested dialing 10xxx-1-613- ... as I assume that will
- bypass the problem.
-
-
- John Sullivan, sullivan@geom.umn.edu
-
-
- [Moderator's Note: I don't think dialing 10-anything will cure the
- problem simply because the local telco looks at all digits dialed
- first, translates what it sees, *then* hands it off to either the
- default one-plus carrier or the 10-of choice carrier. Now if he uses
- the carrier's 800 gateway, and accesses their switch direct rather
- than via the local telco CO, it probably would work provided the LD
- carrier had the correct information. The reason telco looks first,
- even with 10-anything is because if it is intra-LATA, the local telco
- is not required to hand the call to anyone -- they can process it
- in-house. The MCI operator could do it -- as could an AT&T operator --
- simply because they do their own thing; they do not go through the
- local telco. (Even though oddly enough, on an international call I
- made today through AT&T when I dialed the operator she answered like
- this: [listen!] '.... Illinois Bell, may I ... I mean, AT&T, may I
- help you please? ...' ... yes, I thought it was strange also.)
-
- With your 510-613 versus 1-613, the local telco has an error in the
- tables; they'll have to fix it; it is unlikely they will do so anytime
- soon until someone from AT&T or Bellcore argues with them about it,
- and in any event they will never do it just because you or your friend
- report it. You might start by reporting this to the Chairman's office;
- tell one of his reps about it; management complaints seem to attract
- attention second only to commission complaints; in some telcos
- customer complaints run a distant third to the first two categories. PAT]
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