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- Date: Sat, 12 Dec 92 16:45:00 -0600
- From: bill.garfield@yob.sccsi.com (Bill Garfield)
- Newsgroups: comp.dcom.telecom
- Subject: Re: Wanted: Help With Multi-Tech/Courier Modem Problem
- Reply-To: bill.garfield@yob.sccsi.com (Bill Garfield)
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- Organization: Ye Olde Bailey BBS - Houston, TX - 713-520-1569
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- description of modem dialback problem deleted ...
-
- > Is it possible that the local telephone lines are affecting the
- > signal, whereas the long-distance has *some* difference that would
- > account for the weird behavior?
-
- Yes -- but good luck in attempting to prove it to the phone company.
-
- I just SUCCESSFULLY solved a long-standing similar problem with a
- local customer here in Houston (but two telco central offices away)
- who, often as not, could *NOT* get a facsimile transmission to go
- through from their office to mine. The failure rate was an alarming
- 60% on the average. We fought it for almost a year, different fax
- machines, different extensions, same deal, only this ONE customer
- could not fax to us, and the problem was only one direction.
- Practically drove us cuckoo.
-
- The problem turned out to be inter-machine trunk (IMT) trouble between
- two of Bell's larger Houston central offices. (We suspected this was
- the problem some months ago, but were in a quandry as to how to
- convincingly pose our dilemma to the teledroids answering the phones
- at Repair Service) ;)
-
- My solution involved having the fellow at the other end "route" or
- "call forward always" an extension on his PBX to an extension on my
- pbx via the public-switched telephone network. I then dialed the
- "remote" telephone number which caused the phone on the other side of
- my desk to ring. When I answered the call, it naturally passed VOICE
- flawlessly. I called it several more times, flawless voice every
- call. Finally, for grins, on one of the calls, I held down the 9 and
- # buttons on 1 phone (1477hz) and LISTENED to the tone coming through
- the other phone. One direction the tone came through fine. Going the
- other way, the tone had suddenly acquired a pulsating
- "bling-bling-bling-bling-bling" about 10db down from the tone and at
- approx 2 ips. I tried holding down the 1 and 2 buttons (697hz), and
- the pulsations were still there, but now you had to really listen to
- hear them.
-
- Over on my mdf, I connected a Halcyon Transmission Test Set (tone
- generator) to the outgoing line (set for -13dbm) and put my Sage 930A
- D & I test set on the inbound T-1 span coming from Bell. With the
- Halcyon generating standard 1004hz test tone, the pulsations were
- barely noticeable. These became very pronounced as the frequency was
- raised above 1300hz. By the time I got up to 2000hz the
- "bling-bling-bling" was _very_ distinct ... you couldn't miss it.
-
- I called the PBX tech at the other end and had him listen in on his
- incoming and outgoing trunks. As expected, the tone passing through
- his office was clear. I next removed my tone generator and had the
- pbx tech at the other end put his generator on the circuit toward me.
- I was still getting the "bling-bling-bling" pulsations. I had him
- decrease his level by 20db, still "bling-bling-bling-bling".
-
- I got Southwestern Bell's special services folks in on it and asked
- them to trace the call through the various central offices, making
- note of the fact that the "bling-bling-bling" wasn't there at the
- originating end, and emphasizing that the whole purpose of the trace
- was to try and determine at what point in the call's routing were the
- pulsations being introduced. I emphasized to them, "It is not an
- errant call, please do not knock it down, just trace it cable and
- pair, span and channel."
-
- After some 4-1/2 hours and a visit to my office by a SWB Special
- Services tech (after I escalated the problem up to a third level
- supervisor), the problem suddenly cleared, just like magic. "Came
- clear while checking" was the response. Horsefeathers! Something
- that has haunted us for the past 11 months doesn't magically go away.
-
- Back on the phone to the third level supervisor, I was adamant that I
- had to have a logical and plausible resolution report, and that "Came
- clear while testing" wouldn't sit well upstairs with my people.
-
- The following day I received a call from a first line supervisor
- informing me that a Bell interoffice tech found and pulled down a
- loopback off of an unused but "mated" T-1c (48 channel) system. They
- (Bell) had been taking "density errors" on an inter-office T-3 span
- for a long time but had ignored the alarm condition as seemingly no
- one had complained, and of course ordinary voice passed through just
- fine. (Mated systems cannot be placed in loopback because of clocking
- problems, or so I'm told).
-
- Well now, all of a sudden everyone's fax machine works just fine.
- 14.4k bps modems which had trouble staying linked at 2400 began
- working at full speed and two local bbs' report remarkable
- improvements in callers' ability to link with them.
-
- FYI: I coincidently happen to be a Multi-Tech field beta test site
- and the MT1432BA/A is, IMHO, one of the finest products they have
- ever built. 1.02A firmware is the current release & is stable.
- It uses an AT&T data pump. I am unfamiliar with the Courier
- 2400E.
-
- Something else you might try. On the Multi-Tech, disable v.42 error
- checking in favor of plain vanilla MNP-4. The Multi-Tech string to do
- this is; AT&E1&E14#L1 and be sure to "store" it with AT&W0. This has
- _frequently_ worked with some unfriendly USR's.
-
-
- bill.garfield@yob.sccsi.com (Bill Garfield) | Standard disclaimer applies.
- PBX/Datacom Specialist | Opinions are my own and not
- Panhandle Eastern Corp | those of my employer. I speak
- Voice: 713.627.5228 | for no one. I am not an
- Data: 713.520.1569 | employee nor representative
- FAX: 713.627.5285 | of Multi-Tech Systems, Inc.
-
- Ye Olde Bailey BBS Houston,Texas Node 1: 1 713 520 1569 yob.sccsi.com
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