home *** CD-ROM | disk | FTP | other *** search
- Newsgroups: comp.dcom.isdn
- Path: sparky!uunet!paladin.american.edu!darwin.sura.net!haven.umd.edu!decuac!pa.dec.com!engage.pko.dec.com!nntpd.lkg.dec.com!carafe.enet.dec.com!goldstein
- From: goldstein@carafe.enet.dec.com (Fred R. Goldstein)
- Subject: Re: ISDN international tariffs
- Message-ID: <1992Dec21.034537.506@nntpd.lkg.dec.com>
- Sender: usenet@nntpd.lkg.dec.com (USENET News System)
- Organization: Digital Equipment Corp., Littleton MA USA
- Date: Mon, 21 Dec 1992 03:41:26 GMT
- Lines: 36
-
-
- In article <724643806.AA00663@cswamp.apana.org.au>, Arthur@cswamp.apana.org.au (Arthur Marsh) writes...
- >What is the digital bandwidth difference to the telephone company
- >in providing a 64 kbps B channel circuit compared with a 64 kbps
- >PCM voice grade circuit?
-
- For a domestic call, probably not. IN fact, I've done a fair amount
- of my newsreading this past week over my ISDN Basic Rate line using
- the Speech bearer service at 56 kbps! Here in the USA, with
- bit-robbed signaling, that's what it's good for. Our local telephone
- company is moving towards data/speech rate parity, now that we've
- proven that data-over-speech works, but "free" local residential
- calls will only still be speech. So we'll still need the hack.
-
- But INTERNATIONAL calls are different! You MUST go through
- A-law to mu-law code conversion between North America and Europe,
- and I think Oz follows A-law like Europe. Thus data-over-speech
- cannot possibly work. BUT even more important, speech is almost
- always compressed on overseas circuits. The phone company will use 32
- kbps ADPCM, 24-40 kbps EADPCM (an AT&T-developed feature for voice
- on a frame relay-like channel), lower-rate ADPCM, and/or TASI (time
- assignment speech interpolation) in order to squeeze the most voice
- channels out of expensive undersea or satellite circuits. So a
- 64 kbps data call really can take 2-4 times as much bandwidth as
- a "voice" call.
-
- These compressed voice channels are rarely good for 14,400 bps;
- a good 9600 bps modem may get through, but that's under 1/6 the
- bandwidth of the ISDN clear channel. BTW, the US has a hodge-
- podge of 56 kbps and 64 kbps channels. You sort of have to know.
- (AT&T 1700-56x is 56 kbps, 1700-737 is 64 kbps, but other numbers
- can be either or both, depending on call route.)
- ---
- Fred R. Goldstein goldstein@carafe.tay2.dec.com
- k1io or goldstein@delni.enet.dec.com voice:+1 508 952 3274
- Standard Disclaimer: Opinions are mine alone; sharing requires permission.
-