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- From: pcg@aber.ac.uk (Piercarlo Grandi)
- Newsgroups: comp.arch
- Subject: Re: Any new instructions in a i486?
- Message-ID: <PCG.92Dec19162224@decb.aber.ac.uk>
- Date: 19 Dec 92 16:22:24 GMT
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- In-Reply-To: johnl@iecc.cambridge.ma.us's message of 13 Dec 92 05: 00:19 GMT
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- On 13 Dec 92 05:00:19 GMT, johnl@iecc.cambridge.ma.us (John R. Levine) said:
-
- (somebody)> NeXTStep is said to not run on the Cyrix 486 chips because
- (somebody)> "they are not real 486's". No one has come up with a
- (somebody)> reliable reason _why_ NeXT doesn't think they are "real
- (somebody)> 486's" or why NeXTStep won't run on them.
-
- The most probable reason seen so far is that there are some small
- supervisor state differences between the Cyrix and the Intel part. If
- so, I would venture that it is about enabling (and then flushing at the
- right moment) the cache on the Cyrix. It is not necessary to do so, but
- if one does not (and one has to do so on most old 386-like motherboards
- on which the Cyrix part is usually mounted) then performance is little
- better than with a 386.
-
- johnl> I don't have any real data, but I expect the problem is that the
- johnl> Cyrix chip doesn't have a floating point unit.
-
- No, this cannot be the reason. As a rule the Cyrix 486DLC CPU chip is
- sold with the Cyrix Fasmath (a 387) coprocessor, the combo being touted
- quite reasonably as a 486DX equivalent.
-
- Moreover NeXTStep is said to run on the 486SX Intel chips, and those
- don't have a corprocessor either.
-
- FUD, FUD. Ah Intel, Intel. :-)
- --
- Piercarlo Grandi, Dept of CS, PC/UW@Aberystwyth <pcg@aber.ac.uk>
- E l'italiano cantava, cantava. E le sue disperate invocazioni giunsero
- alle orecchie del suo divino protettore, il dio della barzelletta
-