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- Date: Tue, 15 Dec 1992 05:45:16 CST
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- From: John Gabriel <gabriel@EID.ANL.GOV>
- Subject: Law and Order/Fratricide
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- [Gabriel 921215 05:29 CST]
-
- Bill P. points out that among other things PCT could lead to better
- understanding of reasons why people do/do not shoot at each other.
-
- We have two quite different mechanisms in the two societies
- chronicled by Rolf Peterson and the Altmans.
-
- Among the wolves:-
-
- Stop hassling you idiots. If you cut each other up, we'll none of us
- be able to catch the moose.
-
- Among the baboons:-
-
- Eat your nice leaves junior, and don't sass the boss or the leopard
- will get you.
-
-
- And, uncomfortably close to home:-
- In Los Angeles recently, as reported by LtC. William V. Wenger
-
- As I (Wenger) watched in disbelief, a gang member in the car in front
- of me, waiting to make a left turn, shot the occupants in the cars
- on either side of him. I was unarmed, but quickly followed the shooters,
- as did several police cars, until they were apprehended 2 blocks away.
- I reported what I had witnessed to the police, and then drove to our
- headquarters armory to supervise the mobilzation of my Army National
- Guard battalion in Ingelwood, California.
-
- The feedback mechanisms for Altman and Peterson's reports are quite
- clear. The need for the pack to function successfully in hunting,
- in order to eat, and predation by leopards on baboons, who have no
- serious resource shortages in the way of food, but are the victims
- of predation.
-
- Any comments on exactly what feedback mechanisms were working and
- what were not in Los Angeles??
-
- John (gabriel@athens.eid.anl.gov)
-