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- From: mattm@digex.com (Matt Mosley)
- Subject: Re: Waxing nostalgic without much of a point. Was: Re: Why people care so strongly about IRC (sorry, a bit long)
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- Date: Fri, 11 Dec 1992 20:11:51 GMT
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- In article <1g842vINNjnm@usenet.INS.CWRU.Edu> gjm5@po.CWRU.Edu (Gregory J. Meyers) writes:
- > I like NickServ. It does fulfill a needed service, and it does it
- >elegantly. Perhaps bots like NickServ could be used to economize the IRC,
- >by watching the load on the system and suggesting improvements to the IRCops.
- >It could help to cut down on the number of netsplits. With time it might
- >even be allowed to make those changes itself.
-
- Oh, wonderful - now you're suggesting that an automated client handle
- things that require human intervention. This sound really great for the
- IRC network.
-
- > I wouldn't call kicking bots a service; more of a challenge. Those of
- >us who partake in warbot battles from time to time are striving to write the
- >best program to beat out all the others. Code must be at a premium, for the
- >bot that is quickest on the draw is sure to win the battle. And the program
- >has to be hardy, too, to cope with any situation rapidly. It's all too easy
- >to trick most bots. But writing a bot that can't be fooled takes hours and
- >hours of work, and then we get on a channel and try to see whose program is
- >the best.
-
- I'm really disgusted with this kind of logic. Can't you realize that some
- of us are _paying_ for network links, and you're sending hundreds of useless
- mode/kick commands over the net? Don't you know that they are propogated
- _everywhere_? Obviously you've never been a system administrator, and
- don't understand the damage this can really do.
-
- > I'm thinking of a sort of loose democracy. The details are nowhere
- >clear in my mind yet, but definitely anyone should be allowed to vote. Maybe
- >IRCops should be given more than one vote; maybe users who demonstrate their
- >competency on the subject should be given more votes. Since we have to start
- >somewhere, I'd probably suggest that the admins decide how many votes people
- >get. (Each user would have to apply individually to his admin; I'm sure a
- >lot of people just wouldn't bother so there shouldn't be an excessive number
- >for any admin to handle.) And to provide yet another way for bots to be
- >useful, a VoteServ could be set up to do the tally. In the end, the panel
- >of bot judges could be assembled, and they would then be given complete power
- >concerning whether bots live or die, and which ones.
-
- You're forgetting one very important point. IRC always has been and always
- will be an __Anarchy__. You figure out the rest...
-
- --
- Matt Mosley <> "Think for yourself, and feel the
- Digital Express Group <> walls.. become sand beneath your
- mattm@digex.com <> feet." - Queensryche
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