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- From: kadie@cs.uiuc.edu (Carl M. Kadie)
- Subject: [alt.censorship, et al.] Re: Appeals court declares child pornography law unconstitutional
- Message-ID: <BzFsAq.7p4@cs.uiuc.edu>
- Followup-To: alt.comp.acad-freedom.talk,alt.censorship,news.admin.policy,comp.org.eff.talk
- Organization: University of Illinois, Dept. of Comp. Sci., Urbana, IL
- Date: Fri, 18 Dec 1992 03:56:50 GMT
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- [A repost - Carl]
-
- From: mcb@robbe-grillet.postmodern.com (Michael C. Berch)
- Newsgroups: alt.censorship,news.admin.policy,comp.org.eff.talk
- Subject: Re: Appeals court declares child pornography law unconstitutional
- Message-ID: <921217.37008063@robbe-grillet.postmodern.com>
- Date: 18 Dec 92 02:23:13 GMT
-
- In the referenced article, nagle@netcom.com (John Nagle) writes:
- > The Ninth U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals ruled, in US vs X-Citement
- > Video Inc., (CA No. 89-50556), that the sections of the Protection of
- > Children Against Sexual Exploitation Act of 1977 that deal with
- > distribution, transportation, and receipt of sexually explicit
- > materials are invalid on First Amendment grounds. The court let stand the
- > prohibition on the production of child pornography.
- >
- > This ruling needs to be looked at more closely, but it may help to
- > remove sysop worries about someone posting such material on their system
- > without their knowledge, or about network nodes being liable for
- > material passing through them. This is a step forward, because it was
- > one of the very few real legal risks a US sysop had to face, and now
- > it appears to be dead. Do the lawyers out there agree with this analysis?
- >
- > Producing child pornography remains illegal, which is reasonable.
-
- I have not read the opinion, but I am very gratified by the decision.
- I am proceeding on the basis of radio news reports (until I can get to
- my New York Times) and understand that the key issue was that the
- defendants (video store operators?) could not be deemed to have actual
- knowledge of the underage status of the performer. (This was the Traci
- Lords case, by the way.) Presumably the actual producers of such
- material could be deemed to have actual knowledge since they could
- easily require acceptable proof of age directly from the performers.
- (In the case of Traci Lords, though, what should the outcome be when
- the performer actively misleads the producer by furnishing false proof
- of age? An acquittal, in my opinion.)
-
- This is likely to be good news for sysops and site admins, since (as
- with video distribution or rental/sales) there is no reason to charge
- site admins with actual knowledge of the contents of any given article
- that passes through (or is stored on) a site. This even to some degree
- reflects the fact pattern of the X-Citement Video case, since these
- defendants were manifestly *not* involved in an actual child
- pornography "ring" but were simply distributing mainstream sexually
- explicit material in which a particular performer, much later, was
- learned to have been underage by a couple of years. Similarly, for
- BBS and Usenet sites that simply carry a large number of newsgroups,
- including the erotica images groups, there is no implication that the
- site is engaged in active distribution of child pornography if a small
- number of articles are later learned to contain material unlawful
- under the Act. If upheld, this would seem to indicate that there is
- no overall duty to inquire and that knowledge of the status of the
- performers/models will not be construed merely from possession of the
- material.
-
- My understanding is that the Dept of Justice plans to appeal to the
- U.S. Supreme Court, and it would be a fair bet that they will take the
- case since it involves a declaration of unconstitutionality of a very
- visible Federal statute. If another Court of Appeals now comes to a
- different point of view it's pretty much a given that the Supremes
- would take the case for a full decision and opinion.
-
- --
- Michael C. Berch
- Member of the California Bar
- mcb@presto.ig.com / mcb@net.bio.net
- --
- Carl Kadie -- I do not represent any organization; this is just me.
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