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- From: mccall@mksol.dseg.ti.com (fred j mccall 575-3539)
- Newsgroups: tx.politics
- Subject: Re: CSPAN Voter Manipulation
- Message-ID: <1992Nov20.135034.15116@mksol.dseg.ti.com>
- Date: 20 Nov 92 13:50:34 GMT
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- In <21896@rpp386.lonestar.org> jfh@rpp386.lonestar.org (John F. Haugh II) writes:
-
- >In article <BxtsIy.H9r@NeoSoft.com> hari@NeoSoft.com (Doug Andersen) writes:
- >>It's not hard at all John. Of course you can't prove much if you stick
- >>with rankings. Pick out some statistics, employment, literacy, poverty,
- >>whatever. Your choice. Show that things got worse under Clinton and that
- >>he caused economic damage to Arkansas.
-
- >I think you are missing the point. NOTHING got better. When you rank
- >49th, it's pretty hard to get much worse.
-
- Well, no. I think you are missing the point. If you're 49th and
- there's a big gap above you, then you can get a lot 'better' without
- that number changing. Also a lot worse, if the gap is on the other
- side.
-
- >OK. You insist on some "thing". In 1980, Arkansas had an average income
- >level that was 78% of the national average. It was the same in 1989 or
- >so.
-
- Now then, one more bit of necessary fact to make a determination on
- this one -- what did the income distribution for the 'national
- average' look like? If a few populous states showed big gains while
- most others were losing ground, staying in one place can be an
- achievement. In any case, this hardly sounds like 'damage'.
-
- >As the distinguished Senator from Delaware said to me once, "Where's
- >the beef?" Where's the big improvement? There ain't no big improvement!
- >And for your first clue, Clinton is now saying there won't be a big
- >improvement in the US economy. He isn't even President and he's already
- >broken his word about
-
- > * Economic stimulus package (says he might not be able to get
- > it passed)
-
- How is recognizing reality that he MIGHT not be able to get it passed
- equated to 'breaking his word'?
-
- > * Middle class tax cut (says the country may not be able to
- > afford it)
-
- Again, MIGHT not.
-
- > * Gays in the military (says it isn't as simple as he thought,
- > so he's going to have a commission look into it)
-
- Again, no promise broken -- just not running off a cliff without
- looking. Sounds damned PRUDENT to me.
-
- >The next clue is
-
- > * Housing is the most affordable it's been in 18 years
-
- Because the housing industry is in the toilet, so things are being
- sold at 'distress prices'
-
- > * Unemployment is the lowest in two years
-
- Gee, TWO WHOLE YEARS. Ignoring, of course, the tiny fact that we had
- to come up from underneath on that one.
-
- > * Total jobs are the highest in American history
-
- And average wage?
-
- > * George Bush is still the President
-
- Yeah, but not for long, and we all know that. It's the expectational
- effect that is creating part of that economic bounce.
-
- >In short, if Clinton is saying we won't get an improvement, why the hell
- >did you guys vote for him? So the rest of the country can be just like
- >Arkansas - no improvement?
-
- IF? Well, IF cows could fly, we'd all probably carry large umbrellas,
- JOhn.
-
- >Bill Clinton has promised everyone everything he could. At least George
- >Bush waited two years to break his word. Bill Clinton took about one
- >week.
-
- How can he break promises about what he'll try to do WHEN HE'S IN
- OFFICE when his ISN'T IN OFFICE YET? This is a stretch even for you,
- John.
-
- --
- "Insisting on perfect safety is for people who don't have the balls to live
- in the real world." -- Mary Shafer, NASA Ames Dryden
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