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- From: steve@uswmrg.mrg.uswest.com (Steven Martin)
- Subject: Re: A Means To Help Keep Change In Check
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- In article <19NOV199221305485@vxcrna.cern.ch> CASPER, casper@vxcrna.cern.ch
- writes:
- >>Example that point to other countries are irrelevant. Switzerland has a
- >>higher gun ownership rate than the US, yet their crime rate is a tiny
- >>fraction of ours. Mexico has togher gun laws than we do and their crime
- >>rate is HIGHER than ours.
- >
- >
- >Just thought I'd point out a few missing facts about the Switzerland claim.
- >It is slightly misleading as stated.
- >
- >First, Switzerland is one of the richest countries in the world. Hence the
- >motive for violent crime is rather less than in, say, South Central.
-
- That is exactly the point, if gun ownership was all it took to create violent
- criminal, then Switzerland should have thousands of murders a week. They
- don't, therefore the argument that widespread ownership is not the only factor
- in our country.
-
- >Second, all those weapons are "owned" by people in the army or reserves (part
- >of the "wellregulated militia" which the Bill of Rights mentions, but which
- >gun control opponents always seem to ignore).
-
- The Bill of rights mentions that on one hand and private gun ownership on the
- other. Read the AntiFederalist papers. The original wordings from some
- of the states made it clear that personal protection as well as the defense
- of the country was on the minds of the folks who drafted the Bill of Rights.
-
- In other words the right to keep and bear arms is a means to a militia, but
- it is not the only reason that private ownership must not be infringed.
-
- >If you use your military issue weapon to commit a crime in Switzerland, they
- >courtmartial you (i.e. in a military court) and then execute you by a firing
- >squad when found guilty.
-
- I like this idea a lot!
-
- Problem is that in some parts of our screwed up country they have declared
- it illegal to defend yourself in your own home with a weapon! So does that
- mean if you come home and find some thugs raping your wife and daughter
- and you shoot them that you have to be put in front of a firing squad?
-
- Steve Martin
- steve@uswmrg.mrg.uswest.com
-
- "The strongest reason for the people to retain the right to keep and
- bear arms is, as a last resort, to protect themselves against
- tyranny in government." Thomas Jefferson
-