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- From: viking@iastate.edu (Dan Sorenson)
- Subject: Re: Anti-AR movie goers - Please read
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- Organization: Iowa State University, Ames IA
- References: <viking.721551673@vincent2.iastate.edu> <Bxr0HG.6r6@wpg.com>
- Date: Sun, 15 Nov 1992 22:50:16 GMT
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- In <Bxr0HG.6r6@wpg.com> russ@wpg.com (Russell Lawrence) writes:
-
- >In <BxKtnM.I96@wpg.com> russ@wpg.com (Russell Lawrence) writes:
- >rl> 1) Do you favor the right of individuals to select their own form of
- >rl> government. If so, do you agree that the US violated the rights
- >rl> of the vietnamese people by subverting the plans for an all-vietnam
- >rl> election, as embodied in the terms of the geneva peace accord that
- >rl> was signed after the french loss at Dien Bien Phu?
-
- >From article <viking.721551673@vincent2.iastate.edu>, by viking@iastate.edu (Dan Sorenson):
- >ds> Yes, and yes. However, international law allowed the latter as
- >ds> we were supporting the regocognized government of the region.
-
- >This doesn't make sense to me. You seem to be saying that it's ok for
- >powerful nations to trample on the freedom of smaller nations, as
- >long as they begin by setting up a "recognized" puppet in the
- >appropriate region.
-
- Yes. That's the way international law works, Russ. If there
- were another revolution in this country, let's say one to oust our
- own government because of the many violations of rights and freedoms
- we have seen over the past century, Cuba and Mexico would be perfectly
- justified in trying to oppress us revolutionaries in support of the
- current, legal, government. I doubt they would pay much attention to
- the writings of the framers which imply that if a revolution starts
- the current government is no longer legal.
-
- >ds> Is Afghanistan your home? If not, was it "patriotic" for
- >ds> the US to use her military muscle... etc...? Works both ways.
-
- >I don't understand your point. Please explain how/why Soviet
- >intervention in Afghanistan excused US intervention in
- >Vietnam. Is it ok for you to rape a woman, if you perceive
- >that one of your enemies has also raped a woman?
-
- I'm not buying this for a second, Russ -- you simply cannot be
- this nieve. However, the fact remains that international law allows
- the supplying of weapons and supplies to foreign governments and
- revolutionaries. See, both can be considered the popular side, and
- while the US fought in Vietnam for one side the comunist nations
- supplied the VC. While Soviet troops marched in Afghanistan, we
- supplied missiles and weapons to the Mujhadeen rebels. This is war
- by proxy (witness French help in the US Revolutionary war). The
- rape question is hardly relevant, but if one of my enemies raped a
- woman I'd be perfectly justified in giving her a handgun and the
- training to use it and setting her loose. *That* is a more
- correct analogy of how international law works.
-
- < Dan Sorenson, DoD #1066 z1dan@exnet.iastate.edu viking@iastate.edu >
- < ISU only censors what I read, not what I say. Don't blame them. >
- < "This isn't an answer, it's a pagan dance around a midnight fire >
- < written in intellectual runes." -- Rich Young >
-