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- From: rickert@mp.cs.niu.edu (Neil Rickert)
- Subject: Re: FREE WILL 2: Neither a Determinist nor an Indeterminist be.
- Message-ID: <1992Nov17.230828.17309@mp.cs.niu.edu>
- Organization: Northern Illinois University
- References: <spurrett.37.721583229@superbowl.und.ac.za> <spurrett.44.721940415@superbowl.und.ac.za>
- Date: Tue, 17 Nov 1992 23:08:28 GMT
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- In article <spurrett.44.721940415@superbowl.und.ac.za> spurrett@superbowl.und.ac.za (David Spurrett) writes:
- >
- >SUMMARY: There's been a lot of activity following my original posting, at
- >least by the standards of my earlier efforts. In this posting I attempt to
- >clarify some confusions and respond to a few criticisms, and also offer an
- >analysis of the debate intended to characterise the fundamental issues.
- >
- >PART I: Clarifications
- >
- >(1) In article <1992Nov12.224326.6870@guinness.idbsu.edu>,
- >holmes@garnet.idbsu.edu (Randall Holmes) writes:
- >>
- >> I agree with Spurrett that "free will" involves the notion that one
- >> chooses an action and could have chosen otherwise. But this is not
- >> incompatible with determinism if one chooses the sense of possibility
- >> correctly. The sense in which the agent could have acted otherwise is
- >> that _so far as he knows_ he could have acted otherwise. This makes
- >> sense in a deterministic universe because of incomplete information.
- >> [.....]
- >
- >I disagree fundamentally. Certainly there are many senses of possibility, but
- >the sense relevant to `free will' is not what is sometimes called `epistemic'
- >possibility, as suggested by Holmes.
-
- But surely Randall's "free will" is all that you can ask for. After
- all you cannot know that which you cannot know. There is no way of
- determining if there is any other type of free will.
-
- > This is, perhaps, well illustrated by
- >looking at the way we deal with attributions of responsibility. If I believe
- >of a person who stole my watch that that person _thought_ s/he could have
- >chosen not to take the watch, but was in fact mistaken then I cannot con-
- >sistently hold him/her responsible.
-
- This argument is surely irrelevant. Randall was not talking about belief
- but about knowledge. In other words, the situation is that as far as
- the thief knew, he had the free will not to steal your watch, and as
- far as you know he had that same free will. Thus, based on everything
- you know, you should hold him responsible. But if in some interpretation
- of how the universe works it happens that the thief was not free, then
- in that same interpretation you yourself are not free to decide not to
- hold him responsible either. To put it in other terms, your ability to
- choose whether to hold him responsible is itself the evidence you need
- to conclude that he was responsible.
-
-