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- From: jwales@silver.ucs.indiana.edu (jimmy donal wales)
- Newsgroups: talk.philosophy.misc
- Subject: Re: The Enduring Rand (was: Re: Theory?)
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- Date: 15 Nov 92 21:40:06 GMT
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- Ian writes:
- >Let's say you have iron-clad proof that it's somehow "irrational" or
- >"immoral" for me to sacrifice my life to save that of my child. Would
- >you suggest that I stand aside and let my child die even though it is
- >against my nature to do so? You could of course say that the ultimate
- >benefit to me is negative if I stand aside but am miserable for the
- >rest of my life because I went against my nature. This just amounts to
- >defining "altruistic" in such a way that such "superficially
- >altruistic" actions are in fact selfish. I'd be perfectly happy with
- >this response. I just want to know if this is your response or not.
-
- No one could ever create some kind of 'iron-clad' proof that it is
- somehow "irrational" or "immoral" for someone to sacrifice their life
- in an attempt to save those values which make life worth living.
- Many 'superficially altruistic' actions ARE in fact selfish.
-
- Many confusions about ethical egoism arise out of a too simplistic view
- about what is, in fact, in a person's rational self-interest. Rand's
- view of human nature is precisely in line with your intuition here:
- eudaimonia (flourishing, the good life) requires full recognition
- of the entire context of our life. That includes the irreplacable
- value of our own loved ones.
-
- The moral purpose of our lives is to achieve our own happiness. But
- such happiness can not be achieved in any old willy-nilly irresponsible
- manner. Achieving values sometimes requires taking risks... even very
- serious risks with our own lives. I would risk my life to save the
- life of my wife, or the life of a few close friends... because they are
- so valuable to me that the risk is worth it.
-
- Naive views of human nature lead to silly ideas about altruism being
- moral.
-
- --Jimbo
-