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- Subject: Re: What is consciousness?
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- Date: Tue, 17 Nov 92 04:46:47 EST
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- rowe@pender.ee.upenn.edu (Mickey Rowe) writes:
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- > }> ...I've finished _The Origins of
- > }> Consciousness in the Breakdown of the Bicameral Mind_, and I still
- > }> think it's gibberish.)
- > }
- > }I agree that "...Bicameral..." is jibberish. There is a strange tendency
- > }among some writers to try to that what people say they see is not really
- > }what they are seeing. Thus this author tried to explain the reported
- > }visitations by demigods in ancient times as, in effect, hallucinations
- > }caused by the wiring in the brain! (It's been a while since I read the
- > }book, but I think that was the general idea).
- >
- > That's close enough for net.work. However, let's analyze a key
- > statement of yours here: "There is a strange tendency among some
- > writers to try to that what people say they see is not really what
- > they are seeing." If you really think the tendency claim that what
- > people think they perceive is not what they actually perceive is
- > "strange", then you are either blind or ignorant to so much of human
- > psychology as to make any further conversation with you on the topic
- > pointless. I invite you to retract the statement or let the
- > conversatoin end here.
-
- Then let the conversation end here.
-
- > By the way, if you're interested I can dig up a reference for you from
- > a paper that was written by Chrisoph Koch (among others) where they
- > were trying to determine if a person is truly unconscious during
- > anesthesia. This is one of my all time favorite quotes from a peer
- > reviewed paper. (From memory) "Consciousness is a pre-scientific term
- > with multiple and inconsistent meanings."
-
- Matter is unconscious, the soul is always conscious. When the sense
- organs of an embodied soul are anesthetized, the soul may not be able to
- manifest its consciousness to those around it, but it is still
- conscious.
-
- Sincerely,
- Kalki Dasa
-
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