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- From: mkagalen@lynx.dac.northeastern.edu (michael kagalenko)
- Subject: Re: Entry level salaries (was: Re: Elle MacPherson causes rape?)
- Message-ID: <1992Nov24.031056.7566@lynx.dac.northeastern.edu>
- Organization: Northeastern University, Boston, MA. 02115, USA
- References: <1992Nov18.003203.223@fid.morgan.com> <JULIE.92Nov18190943@cucbs.chem.columbia.edu> <92328.172641U53644@uicvm.uic.edu>
- Date: Tue, 24 Nov 1992 03:10:56 GMT
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- >In summary, then : 1. Women are scarce in Mathematics because of their own
- > personal failings, and nothing else. (If the previous
- > poster had even the slightest sense of shame, she would
- > have noted that affirmative action has favored women in
- > Mathematics and Chemistry both for decades, so the
- > complaint that women are getting more than their share of
- > breaks is >well< substantiated). To clean the slate every
- > time women fall behind in some area is simply not justice
- > - it deprives those who have worked harder of the fruit
- > of their labor.
- >
- > 2. Discrimination is discrimination, and I, for one, am sick
- > and tired of hearing excuses for the inexcusable.
- > Feminism, at least, is being partially exposed for what
- > it really is : a totally hypocritical self-interest
- > movement aimed at grabbing everything it can for women,
- > with no concern whatsoever for whether or not any men are
- > being wronged in the process, masquerading as a push for
- > equal rights.
- >
- >Don't be fooled. And don't be steamrollered. Women AREN'T entitled to special
- >privileges. Don't let them have them.
- >
- > Joseph B. Dunphy
- > Politically incorrect without
- > apology
- >
- >
- >PS. I can already see a net battle brewing here, with every feminist on the net
- > writing in to argue with the proposition that discriminating against white
- > males on the basis of gender and ethnicity is wrong. I have already spoken
- > my peace, and will ignore those responses, much as I would ignore any other
- > self-serving hypocrite writing in on her own behalf. I have better things
- > to do with my time. Discrimination is wrong. Anyone who disagrees with that
- > is either intellectually or morally deficient. End of subject.
- >
- > Responses are unwelcome, and will bounce.
- Joseph's posting is very reasonable. I'd like to add that affirmative
- actions is the best way to rot off motivation of those who are supposed to
- be encouraged by these actions; unfair advantage will always result in
- weakness.
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