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- From: nelson_p@apollo.hp.com (Peter Nelson)
- Subject: Re: Racist/Sexist Role Models
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- Date: Mon, 23 Nov 1992 21:06:58 GMT
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- In article <1992Nov23.202514.19702@das.harvard.edu> stewart@geophysics.harvard.edu writes:
- >In article 19575@samba.oit.unc.edu, Terry.Parks@launchpad.unc.edu (Terry Parks) writes:
- >>Many colleges provide special preferred academic treatment for Blaks.
- >
- >Actually, they've been providing special treatment for Whites for a long
- >time. This is evidenced by the fact that one college officer obviously
- >can't even spell the color "Black" and doesn't know enough to call Americans
- >of African descent by their proper name, i.e. African Americans.
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- Spelling flames have no place here. The "proper name" for blacks
- changes every few years -- since I reached voting age there have been
- at least 4 "proper" names for blacks. If they would make up their
- minds what they would like to be called they would have a lot better
- success in getting compliance with it!
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- >for women than for men. Men systematically have their scores raised
- >a couple points. Because women tend to get better grades in High
- >School and better letters of recommendations, in order to keep the
- >male-to-female ratio 1:1, lower admission standards are applied to
- >men.
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- This would only be true if schools are deliberately targeting
- a certain ratio of males to females which requires increasing
- the neumber of males they accept. Do have any actual evidence
- that schools have this policy or are you arguing on circumstantial
- evidence?
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- > Also recall that there was a quota here at
- >Harvard for Jewish students until the 60's, which is why Boston
- >University exists (it was started because top students who happened
- >to be Jewish would have a harder time gaining admission to Harvard
- >because of these quotas) and for a long time there were no Jewish
- >faculty here.
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- Boston University?? What's so Jewish about BU? They regularly
- broadcast Protestant church services on WBUR. Also, historically
- their academic standards weren't that high -- when I was looking
- at collges in the 1960's 48% of BU's faculty were PhD's compared
- to over 60% for Umass, for instance. A student who was acdemically
- qualified for Harvard would not settle for BU in the 60's! Nor
- were they very selective -- Everybody I knew was using BU for their
- "safety" school. Maybe you're thinking of Brandeis -- a largely
- Jewish Boston-area college with high academic standards.
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- > In essence, with more strict admissions policies
- >being applied to women and Jews at Harvard/Radcliffe, logic dictates
- >that the admissions standards have always been lower for WASP men
- >here.
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- Logic dictates no such thing. (you're posting from Harvard?)
- It would only suggest such a thing if the number of applicants
- from each group were the same.
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- ---peter
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