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- From: payner@netcom.com (Rich Payne)
- Subject: Re: Self Appreciation (was: Re: Elle MacPherson causes rape?)
- Message-ID: <1992Nov22.045638.8481@netcom.com>
- Organization: Netcom - Online Communication Services (408 241-9760 guest)
- References: <1992Nov12.171018.4931@mr.med.ge.com> <1992Nov16.032253.11008@netcom.com> <1992Nov22.032913.24080@news.Hawaii.Edu>
- Distribution: usa
- Date: Sun, 22 Nov 1992 04:56:38 GMT
- Lines: 45
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- In article <1992Nov22.032913.24080@news.Hawaii.Edu> mwasson@uhunix.uhcc.Hawaii.Edu (Michael Wasson) writes:
- >In article <1992Nov16.032253.11008@netcom.com> payner@netcom.com (Rich Payne) writes:
- >>In article <1992Nov12.171018.4931@mr.med.ge.com> wendy@sundown.mil.wi.us writes:
- >>>
- >>>I just thought I would say that I find this whole thread interesting. Being a
- >>>Transexual on her way to transition, I can understand both sides. Most men,
- >>>being members of the White Male System, have no idea of what women go through.
- >>[deleted sarcasm]
- >
- >Gee, Rich, she was just trying to make a point. I mean, for most of us,
- >"being in the other person's shoes" is just a thought-experiment. She's
- >actually done it. Have you? *I* haven't.
-
- And so was I, what is -your- problem? And no, I have not done it. But
- do you understand everything you have done? That it is very real for Wendy
- does not imply that she understands everything. In later posts, she mentions
- extreme confusion and stress because of this. Which seems understandable
- to me.
-
- Nevertheless, she should have an interesting perspective.
-
- >>Since you made a public anouncement, I hope you won't mind my asking why?
- >>(The sex change that is)
- >
- >Didn't the original post say something about always having felt that
- >she was a woman, biological gender notwithstanding? So, that's why,
- >I would imagine. Wendy?
-
- It was not included in the original post, which was why I asked. Since
- my reply was to the first text I saw, and I did not delete any of the
- original text, you must have edited it out if it were there. Which would
- not be a wise editing decision BTW.
-
- >>>Wendy
- >>Rich
- >>payner@netcom.com
- >
- >Mike
- >mwasson@uhunx.uhcc.hawaii.edu
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- Rich
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- payner@netcom.com
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