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- From: slarsen@berlin.helios.nd.edu (susan larsen)
- Subject: Re: Elle MacPherson causes rape?
- Message-ID: <1992Nov20.204742.29801@news.nd.edu>
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- Organization: OUC, University of Notre Dame
- References: <142V03FNbcnn00@amdahl.uts.amdahl.com>> <MUFFY.92Nov18114444@remarque.berkeley.edu> <By11K4.4C4@javelin.sim.es.com>
- Date: Fri, 20 Nov 1992 20:47:42 GMT
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- In article <By11K4.4C4@javelin.sim.es.com> biesel@javelin.sim.es.com (Heiner Biesel) writes:
- >muffy@remarque.berkeley.edu (Muffy Barkocy) writes:
- >
- >>...[]... The way I see it,
- >>it is much easier for a person to develop and change their personality
- >>than it is for them to change their looks (which they are basically born
- >>with).
- >
- >Ah! This, I think, gets to the heart of the matter. Personality is under
- >our immediate control, and looks aren't, or at least so Muffy believes.
- >
- >---deletia---
- >
- >Looks, by contrast, require merely an investment in cosmetics and plastic
- >surgery, something that would appear, to me at least, to require much less
- >time and willpower than to change one's personality significantly.
-
- I've been thinking about why women get so riled about supermodel or
- super-woman type images and came up with this thought:
-
- It isn't so much an issue of looks over personality as much as an
- issue of looks versus actions.
-
- If you think of society as having just so many slots "at the top", just
- so much fame, fortune and reward to go around. Now, think of the
- existence of quotas for those slots, women being allocated so many slots
- and men being allocated their share. Now, look at who fills those slots
- and why......
-
- Many women are "at the top" because of who they are, not what they've done.
- Women who are supermodels, for instance, must be a certain height, weight,
- have a certain fat distribution, a particular look, cooperative hair, etc.
- Although some of these attributes are subject to limited personal control,
- the bulk of these qualifications are genetic, a happenstance of birth.
-
- Few of the top slots occupied by men are filled because of who they are.
- These slots are filled mostly by men who have done something, succeeded
- at business or sports, fame in their field of endeavor. Some of these
- guys may have an edge because of birth, a Kennedy for instance, and
- a few may have parlayed good looks into success, like Tom Selleck.
- But the impression here at the bottom is that a top niche can be
- owned by a man who does something and does it well.
-
- Back to the top women... How many got a leg up because of marriage
- or connections with a top guy? Marla Maples, Princess Diana, the
- grande dames of both coasts. Again, looks can play a very large part
- in this traditional feminine road to the top.
-
- The top men.... Marriage or associations? I can't think of any examples.
- Are Cher's boyfriends respected men? Not hardly.
-
- The frustrating thing about this, for women, is that if there is only so
- much room at the top and if so many slots are given over to women who
- simply are, where does it leave the women who are trying to get to the top
- through actions? We see a world of reward going to men who achieve,
- regardless of who they are and then feel gypped when that same road to
- the top is so crowded with women who are succeeding because of good
- genes or lucky associations.
-
- Now, I'm not saying that there actually are only so many fame slots or
- the cookies comes automatically to good looking women. What I am saying,
- though, is that women can come to feel that female success, whether it
- be monetary, dating, social whatever, comes in disproportionate volume
- to looker-women over doer-women. While a man can comfort himself in
- knowing that fame came to an Al Unser because Al tried harder, a woman
- finds small comfort in reconciling fame and goodies going to an
- Elle MacPherson because Elle was born a "better" woman.
-
- Of course, these are generalizations; your mileage may vary.
-
-
- Sue Larsen
- slarsen@berlin.helios.nd.edu
-