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- From: dswartz@sw.stratus.com (Dan Swartzendruber)
- Newsgroups: soc.women,alt.feminism,soc.men
- Subject: Re: Self Appreciation (was: Re: Elle MacPherson causes rape?)
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- Date: 20 Nov 92 21:34:24 GMT
- References: <1ehmvaINNka2@hp-sdd.sdd.hp.com> <1992Nov20.183409.19229@mr.med.ge.com>
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- In article <1992Nov20.183409.19229@mr.med.ge.com>, wendy@sundown.mil.wi.us writes:
- > Teri Tracey (teri@sdd.hp.com) wrote:
- > > charleen@ADS.COM (Charleen Bunjiovianna) writes:
- > > > wendy@sundown.mil.wi.us writes:
- > > >>
- > > >>I will say this. You are looking at this from one side only. I am starting
- > > >>to see it from the other side. Whether you believe it or not, women are
- > > >>looked down upon in this society. Very few men treat them as equals.
- > > >
- > > >But don't tell me that I, as a woman, am treated in such-and-such a
- > > >way and that you can prove this through your own experience. I don't
- > > >buy it.
- > >
- > > One counter-example does not disprove a generalization, because the
- > > nature of a generalization does NOT imply that there exist NO counter
- > > examples. Let's take a different tack. Do you feel that all or even
- > > most women in this society are treated as equals?
-
- Let me see if I have this right. Wendy made the generalization that few
- if any men treat women as equals. She justified this by saying that she
- personally is now seeing things this way. That is apparently okay by you.
- But when Charleen says that she doesn't see things that way, you dismiss her
- statement by saying that it is only one example. Note that Charleen *didn't*
- say that society treats women a certain way. She disagreed with Wendy's
- claim based on her personal experience.
-
- > > Teri
- > > .
- > > .
- >
- > Thank you.
- >
- > Wendy
-
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- Dan S.
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