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- From: robert@informix.com (Robert Coleman)
- Newsgroups: soc.women,alt.feminism,soc.men
- Subject: Re: Self Appreciation (was: Re: Elle MacPherson causes rape?)
- Message-ID: <robert.722222338@labyrinth>
- Date: 20 Nov 92 01:18:58 GMT
- References: <1992Nov17.234434.18993@tellab5.tellabs.com> <1992Nov18.153348.6594@mr.med.ge.com>
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- wendy@sundown.mil.wi.us writes:
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- >Peter Chrzanowski (chrz@tellabs.com) wrote:
- >>
- >> Has someone made claims of superiority? Where, when? Or do you mean
- >> that because I consider this book is not only hateful but also laughably
- >> bad then I must be a racist, sexist pig?
- >>
-
- >Peter,
-
- >This is turning into a flamewar. You are showing exactly how males act by
- >having to win this disagreement. You want to win???? OK, You win! You can
- >now go off and say that you won.....
-
- >You may well be a racist, sexist pig. I don't know you well enough to say.
- >Maybe someone else here on the net could enlighten us.
-
- >I will say this. You are looking at this from one side only. I am starting
- >to see it from the other side. Whether you believe it or not, women are
- >looked down upon in this society. Very few men treat them as equals.
-
- >I will no longer discuss the book with you. If you want to discuss
- >transexual issues, I will. But I think it's useless for us to continue
- >discussing the book.
-
- Wendy,
-
- Why do you use the word "male" with "women" in this close context?
- Why not "male" and "female", or "men" and "women"? To my mind, it indicates
- a bias that negates the value of your having been on both sides of the wall...
- in fact, you've stated that you've seen it from both sides, while
- simultaneously maintaining that you've "always been a woman" psychologically.
- Which one more nearly qualifies your position?
-
- Still, I'd be interesting in hearing examples...
-
- Robert C.
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