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- From: slarsen@beethoven.helios.nd.edu (susan larsen)
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- Subject: Re: Self Appreciation (was: Re: Elle MacPherson causes rape?)
- Message-ID: <1992Nov18.220043.24431@news.nd.edu>
- Date: 18 Nov 92 22:00:43 GMT
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- >In article <1992Nov18.161617.16132@news.nd.edu> slarsen@berlin.helios.nd.edu (susan larsen) writes:
- >>In article <BxvvL0.FCI@apollo.hp.com> nelson_p@apollo.hp.com (Peter Nelson) writes:
- >>>
- >
- >>her is that what really counts in the end is to be true to
- >>yourself. Whether that self is a go along kind of gal or
- >>a raging rebel, I want that decision to be hers, not mine.
- >
- > My only caveat is that children and adolescents are very
- > impressionable. *Somebody* or *something* will end up
- > raising them and shaping their values. It will either
- > be the parent or it will be their peers, Madison Avenue,
- > TV, etc.
- >
- > It's idealistic to think that a typical, let's say, 11
- > year old, can "make decisions" with the same confidence and
- > self-authority as an adult. This was one of the points
- > of the Northeastern University study on teenage violence a
- > couple of weeks ago that I mentioned: they concluded that
- > kids today are "incompletely socialized" due to a "lack of
- > parenting" (their terms). They said parents are not a big
- > enough force and factor in the lives of their kids.
- >
- True enough. Don't get me wrong, I'm not allowing my daughter
- to make life-altering decisions without my input. It's just
- that I am real hesistant to make up rules and enforce them
- with the adage "Because I said so." I am hoping that by
- engaging my daughter in dialog, featuring my values and
- examples of the values of others, that I am encouraging her
- to make reasonable decisions after gathering facts, views,
- or any other appropriate information that can relate to these
- decisions. I'm not saying that this is an easy route to
- take, because often the decisions are not the ones I would make.
- But the benefit (so far) is that she is willing to discuss
- things with me and if she makes a "bad" decision on her own, she
- will 'fess up to it. Oh, and I try to keep her sphere of
- decision making appropriate to her age. If I decide to go on
- vacation, she certainly is not allowed to decide to opt out,
- for instance.
-
- As for other forces, I deal with those as they come up. One
- game that we have played for years, though, is used when we
- watch TV: "What are they trying to make you think?" It is a
- fun game with little kids and commercials. Now that she is
- older, we play it with full-length shows. Often, when a new
- commercial airs, Iris will turn to me and say "They're trying
- to make me think my socks are yucky" or some such other
- observation she has made on her own.
-
- Sue Larsen
- slarsen@berlin.helios.nd.edu
-