NetNews Usenet Archive 1992 #27/NN_1992_27.iso/spool/soc/women/19847

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From: [e-mail] (susan larsen)
Subject: Re: Self Appreciation (was: Re: Elle MacPherson causes rape?)
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In article <[e-mail]> [e-mail] (Peter Nelson) writes:
>
>  And, as I pointed out in an earlier posting, while it's true
>  that we are all under social pressure to conform to certain
>  roles and behavior and consume certain products, that pressure
>  *can* be resisted!    Women have to face enough *genuine*
>  harassment and discrimination that it's alsmost criminal when
>  they actively promote a set of cultural values that further
>  denigrates them.   It's truly bizarre.  I'm at that age where
>  a lot of my friends have children and I see mothers in generation
>  taking their 9-year old girls out to get their ears pierced or
>  to buy makeup and jewelry, setting them out on the road to
>  becoming obediant little consumers preoccupied with conforming
>  to some artificial standard of beauty.   Last Christmas my
>  10 year old niece got a mall shopping game!
>
I agree completely with this on a personal level but.......

Bear in mind that there are very few societal rewards in
resisting the mainstream.  It is indeed sad to see 9 yo girls
getting indoctrinated at so early an age, but as a mother of
an 11 yo girl I see daily the effects of peer pressure from
more traditionally reared girls on my own daughter.  The
question arises, am I fair in trying to rear my daughter in
a non-mainstream fashion when she will have to compete with
others of her kind who have been indoctrinated more fully
in "the way we've always done it"?  If my daughter is not
exposed to cosmetics, how will that impact her later in life
when she goes around to job interviews, for instance?  Will
her life really be "better" if she is raised to face down
the system, or will her life be "better" if she is raised
to exploit the system?   Whose life is "better" anyway?
An Elle MacPherson as a master exploiter, using traditional
notions of beauty to acquire wealth beyond most of our
imaginations?  Or a Gloria Steinem?  Is it my job to judge
that for my daughter?

If the people really wanted to buck social pressure, yes they
could.  Practically speaking though, that pressure exists in
the first place because people put it there.  I think most
people would rather just shuffle along in life, never really
questioning who they are and allowing the mainstream to define
their existence.  Most folks don't much care for change and
if they get activated, it will more often than not be to stop
change, not forward it.  So, this creates a great social force,
full of rewards and punishments, to maintain a status quo.  Am
I doing a parental service to my child by pushing her to run
counter to that force?

The best I think I can do is to try to teach my daughter that
she is a valuable person and a valued person and that she has
every right to think for herself.  If she expresses a desire
to own eyeshadow, I can explain why *I* may not care for the
stuff but I will not forbid her to purchase it.  And, I will
also have to teach her that whistle blowers are often per-
secuted and that smart girls sometimes stay home when pretty,
made-up girls are asked out. And, I will teach her that she
can ask out a boy instead of dolling up and waiting to be
selected.   But, the most important thing I want to teach
her is that what really counts in the end is to be true to
yourself.  Whether that self is a go along kind of gal or
a raging rebel, I want that decision to be hers, not mine.

Sue Larsen
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