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- From: payner@netcom.com (Rich Payne)
- Subject: Re: Self Appreciation (was: Re: Elle MacPherson causes rape?)
- Message-ID: <1992Nov16.032253.11008@netcom.com>
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- References: <1dsdniINNef3@hp-sdd.sdd.hp.com> <1992Nov12.171018.4931@mr.med.ge.com>
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- Date: Mon, 16 Nov 1992 03:22:53 GMT
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- In article <1992Nov12.171018.4931@mr.med.ge.com> wendy@sundown.mil.wi.us writes:
- >
- >I just thought I would say that I find this whole thread interesting. Being a
- >Transexual on her way to transition, I can understand both sides. Most men,
- >being members of the White Male System, have no idea of what women go through.
-
- We know, and most women know exactly what men go through, and what it means
- in all ways from the mans viewpoint on up. Obviously men are not only deaf,
- dumb (?) and blind, but insensitive and stupid.
-
- Men have no clue. Men just don't get it. We know, we've been told.
-
- >They cannot remotely see how women are inherently treated as inferior in this
- >culture. It sure was a learning experience for me, I can tell you that!!!!!
-
- Why don't you. That is, a few details if you please.
-
- >I suggest that before you men spoute off about how women are not treated as
- >inherently inferior, you become better informed.
-
- Why do I think that it would be sexist to say the same thing to women
- spouting off about men? (you know, that they had better become better
- informed)
-
- > Try the book "Women's Reality"
- >by Ann Schaef. It might enlighten you. It did me.
-
- Did you have a clue -before- reading the book?
-
- > Helped me understand why
- >women sometimes think of themselves as second class citizens. And why I'll
- >be treated the same way as I go out into society as a women. Hasn't changed
- >my mind what-so-ever, but has prepared me somewhat to cope with it.
-
- Since you made a public anouncement, I hope you won't mind my asking why?
- (The sex change that is)
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- >Wendy
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- Rich
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- payner@netcom.com
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