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- From: gdkg1346@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Gautham D. Kamath)
- Subject: Re: OFWM / OMWF survey
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- Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
- Date: Sat, 21 Nov 1992 05:54:10 GMT
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- bs42408@yorick.umd.edu (Bryan Lee) writes:
-
-
- > SURVEY
- >Maybe it's just my imagination or maybe it's real but it seems
- >like there are many more Oriental (meaning East-Asian) Female-
- >White Male couples than there are Oriental Male-White Female
- >couples. Has anyone else noticed this trend? Anyone have any
- >idea what might be causing such a disparity? I myself am
- >completely supportive of interracial relationships, but it seems
- >strange that it should be more common one way than the other.
-
- Yes I have noticed that also. And this one way-ness is not limited
- to East Asians (I guess Oriental is now politically incorrect.
- Soon East Asian will be also and the new term will be People of
- the Orient (sort of like people of color (gee lets see how many
- parantheses I can nest on this tangent (hey this is sort of like
- Lisp)))). I am a second generation Indian male. I have noticed that on
- campus a lot of second generation Indian females go out with
- white males. The reverse is not true. And I know that bothers a
- lot of you Indian guys out there....don't lie...many of you know
- its true.
- There are two reasons as far as I can tell for this gender
- disparity in white-asian relationships
-
- 1) Asian women usually have the stereotype of being exotic and
- submissive, which is usually a trait that many men like, unfortunately.
- On the other hand the stereotype of Asian men is usually that of
- being geeks and sort of passive. Passivity is not considered a
- masculine trait.
-
- 2) In fact Asian men are less aggressive than their white counterparts.
- You've got to be in the game to win it. Most don't really try hard
- enough to attract women of other races. Hell they don't even try
- properly to attract women of their own race...well at least I know
- that about my fellow Indian males.
-
- I do have an SO who happens to be white and we have discussed this
- problem many times. She traveled abroad to Hong Kong, Thailand, Japan,
- etc for more than two years and she would get irritated anytime she
- saw a white male with an Asian. She felt that the only reason
- he would be going out with her was to use her as as LBFM (little brown
- fucking machine). Her term, not mine. The Non-oriental male could
- make her do submissive stuff that an American woman would not put
- up with or the Non-Oriental man was too much of a loser that woman of
- his own race wouldn't go out with. I basically agreed with her, though
- I had an arguement with on this point: why is it that when a man and
- woman have sex, it is always the man using or exploiting the woman??
- After all, on her trip she had sex with men in all different countries
- while maintaing a relationship with a married black man here at home.
-
- The only thing that reverses this trend is for Asians to be around
- longer so that they are seen in all niches of society, not just engineer,
- doctor, computer nerd, and 7-11 owner. There are very few Asian politicians,
- athletes, movie stars, porn stars, police officers, community activists,
- criminals, kindergarden teachers, truck drivers, etc. Some of this is
- changing, but in a negative way. There is now an increase in Asian gang
- activity and organized crime.
- TV is one big influence. Everytime I see an Indian on some TV show,
- he or she speaks with an accent and usually acts like some Ghandhi
- reincarnation. Of course there are a lot Indians that do speak like that.
- But there are also many who don't. But for your average person in the
- mid-west who probably never met an Indian, TV gives them their first
- impression. What if every black person were shown talking jive? There
- would be a big outrage. Of course the problem goes again to point #2:
- Asians are passive. Passivity in relationships extends to political
- passivity also.
-
- Getting back to the original topic, with blacks and whites the gender
- phenomenon is reversed. I see many more black male- white female couples
- than the reverse. In the 23 yrs of my life, only once do I ever recall
- seeing a white male holding the hand of a black female. And I mean a
- relationship, not just for some one night fling or seeing a prostitute.
- And in public. TV does not count.
-
- Since blacks and whites are not exotic to each other since they
- are more familiar to each other and the males are
- more agressive than there Asian counterparts, there are other dynamics
- at work in their gender disparity. I have my own theories, but it
- would be better to ask the black and white soc.single readers.
-
-
- Gautham Kamath
-
- Sigs? I don't need no stinkin' sigs!!!!!!
-
-
- Of course the rarest of all, one I have never seen: Asian male-black
- female. Has anyone ever seen this? Know of any personally?
-
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