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- From: markbr%radian@natinst.com (markbr)
- Subject: Re: Tolerance of Others (Was: Re: raising child)
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- Date: Thu, 19 Nov 1992 18:45:14 GMT
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- In article <1992Nov18.214535.14730@tc.fluke.COM> emery@tc.fluke.COM (John Emery) writes:
- >In article <1992Nov16.061631.2706@netcom.com> rohwerwd@netcom.com (W. David Rohwer) writes:
- >>
- >> Are you saying the religious people are not bigots by chance? If
- >>you are, then you are wrong. Just look at the Christians and their
- >>non-tolerance of homosexuals, non-Christian actions and other religions.
- >>I do not see any problem with mocking a belief system and the people with
- >>that belief system that does not tolerate other's actions or belief systems.
- >>Therefore, I do not see any problem with mocking Christians or Christianity.
- >
- >The only problem is that there is always some group that a person is
- >intolerant of. That means everyone is a bigot. For instance, are
- >you tolerant of neo-Nazi behavior? Are you tolerant of serial killers?
-
- This is poorly thought out, or bullshit.
-
- >These are just a few examples. By mocking Christians, that is evidence
- >that you are intolerant of this belief system and by your own words
- >you convict yourself by defining a bigot as anyone "that does not tolerate
- >other's actions or belief systems." In your case, Christianity.
- >
- >So does not tolerating homosexuality make a person less tolerant than
- >not tolerating Christianity or any religion for that matter?
- >
- >The point I would like to contribute to this discussion is that there
- >must be an underlying principle other than tolerance by which one is
- >judged. Tolerance is neutral. There are always things that each
- >individual is tolerant of and intolerant of. In other words, everyone
- >is both tolerant and intolerant. However, it is the underlying
- >principle of absolute right and wrong that is the issue. Finding and
- >upholding absolute truth I would think should be the measuring rod
- >by which something is tolerated or intolerated.
- >
- Whether tolerance is neutral depends on context. The sense of the word
- tolerance the original poster used was the allowing others to follow
- a course of action that ***DOES NOT*** force others to act as they wish
- them to. The sense John Emery is using it is allowing one individual
- or group to ****impose their will**** upon another. These *ARE NOT*
- equivalent.
-
- >God bless,
- >--
- >John Emery "You say we've risen to a new age of light.
- >emery@tc.fluke.COM You're telling me what used to be wrong
- > is now right."
-
- And your .sig, in some cases, yes. After all, slavery used to be "right",
- as was torture (see "Spanish Inquisition").
-
- mark
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