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- From: sethb@fid.morgan.com (Seth Breidbart)
- Subject: Re: What do you Am men think about Am women?
- Message-ID: <1992Nov17.223339.26866@fid.morgan.com>
- Organization: my opinions only
- References: <1992Nov6.210652.712@netcom.com> <MARTINC.92Nov8150437@grover.cs.unc.edu> <25766@sybase.sybase.com>
- Date: Tue, 17 Nov 1992 22:33:39 GMT
- Lines: 53
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- In article <25766@sybase.sybase.com> mysti@sybase.com (Mysti) writes:
- >In article <MARTINC.92Nov8150437@grover.cs.unc.edu> martinc@grover.cs.unc.edu (Charles R. Martin) writes:
-
- >> Well, check out the content of the virtually all-female form of (usually)
- >> soft-core pornography known as "Romance Novels": written for women,
- >> by women.
-
- >Important point #1: what is the most frequently occurring gender of the
- >people who control film studios and publishing houses?
-
- I believe that most of the romance editors (the people who actually
- decide which books to buy for the romance lines) are female.
-
- >Important point #2: In writing seminars, I have frequently been told that
- >men often write these stories and pseudonymify with women's names.
-
- Romance books with men's names don't sell. Therefore, all men who
- want to sell romance use women's names. Women write the majority of
- romance novels (otherwise the statement made in the writing seminars
- would have been different).
-
- >Important point #3: Women act in porn films, this does not mean that violence
- >in pornography is a "fantasy shared by women and men". Likewise, because women
- >sell (what men are purchasing for publication for sale to women) these stories
- >does not mean that they share the fantasy. If they did, they'd be lolling about
- >waiting for someone to rescue them, eh?
-
- Women buy these books because they enjoy the fantasy. There are
- fantasies that I enjoy that I don't attempt to live out in real life;
- I don't expect other people necessarily to attempt to live out theirs.
- (I don't expect them not to, either. They do what they want. People
- are like that. cf. "First Law of Animal Behavior")
-
- >Important point #4: There's nothing wrong with having a fantasy about
- >someone rescuing you. The problem is that all too often women (and men)
- >come to believe that this is their only option.
-
- Whose fault is that?
-
- >And they may not be too far wrong if the statistics which say that 40
- >percent of homeless people are women escaping violent partners, is true.
-
- The statistics I've seen indicate that far fewer than 40% of homeless
- people are women, period.
-
- >We don't take these things seriously because we are humorless castrating
- >femanazi dykes, but because their consequences can be measured in human
- >suffering and pain, on both sides of the gender line.
-
- The consequences of which things? Litmus test: Do you promote
- censorship for political purposes?
-
- Seth sethb@fid.morgan.com
-