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- From: eowyn@brahms.udel.edu (Zoe Antonia Velonis)
- Subject: Re: Oprah 11/19
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- Date: Mon, 23 Nov 1992 21:30:23 GMT
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- >I, too, watched Oprah today and continue to be amazed at how intolerant
- >people can be of others just because of their sexual orientation. As a
- >mother of four, I don't understand how any parent could turn their back
- >on their child just because of who their child is. I confess that I am
- >ignorant when it comes to understanding what makes some people a "four-
- >leaf clover, when most are three." (Oprah's analogy for gay vs. straight
- >orientation.) Therefore, I would like to ask a couple of probably really
- >dumb questions, but please believe me that I am sincere and only ask
- >because I do care about other people and have a desire to understand. So,
- >1) I believe that whether a person is gay or straight depends on genetics.
- >Therefore, when a person is born, it has already been determined...being
- >gay is not "learned behavior that one can change" as the religious fanatics
- >would have us believe. Is this belief correct? 2) During the Oprah episode,
- >several "straight" individuals accused a couple of lesbians on the show of
- >really wanting to be men since they chose to dress or "act" like most people
- >think men should behave. My question then is: Like a heterosexual relation-
- >ship, do homosexual relationships generally have male and female roles...the
- >more dominant individual portraying a male role?
- That's really great. I hope my parents feel like you do....
- about the assuming male roles in lesbian relationships, as I'm not, I don't
- really know for sure, but my lesbian friends assure me that it isn't. There
- are always exceptions, though; and I'm sure some lesbians do act masculine and
- assume that type of role. I just don't think it's the norm.>
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- >Before I get crucified, I would like to explain that I was brought up in a
- >religious cult-type environment where I was taught that being homosexual was
- >evil and that God hated this behavior. Luckily, I broke away from this
- >situation about five years ago, when I was thirty. I have never really
- >felt that God would hate someone who is different. In fact, Jesus said we
- >should love everyone and professed Christians should learn from Jesus'
- >example that it is wrong to hate...we are all brothers (and sisters). I
- >continue to defend anyone who is looked down upon for being different than
- >society dictates. What I am getting at is that I really want to understand.
- >I know that being gay is far more than a sexual preference....heterosexuals
- >will say the same thing. It is who they are; it is their life. I really
- >don't have any gay friends (or maybe I do, but just aren't aware).
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- Bisexuals say the same thing, too! Much more than who you're having sex with,
- as evinced by the fact that I have never had sex with a member of the same
- sex, but still consider myself unquestionably bi. And now you have some bi
- friends, even if we're not gay per se.
- >
- >If anyone would like to respond to my questions, I would appreciate it.
- >Again, my questions (though probably ignorant) are sincere. By the way,
- >my family and I have lived in Colorado Springs for just a few months. I
- >can't believe how intolerant people are here of others. We are from the
- >East coast where people seem to be more open-minded. The religious
- >influence here (with all the "Christians" groups who seem to be rather
- >self-righteous) is a little hard to take. Since being involved with that
- >cult I mentioned above, I still haven't found any group that I wish to be
- >part of. I do believe in God -- a God who loves everyone for the person
- >he/she is...what they believe in their hearts and how they treat others.
- >If you know of a group who subscribes to this belief, please do let me know.
- >
- I don't know about a group of people out there like this, but I'm sure there
- are more. I know that I do. I wouldn't believe in a God who hated me or
- any of my friends because we're bi or lesbian or gay. I just wouldn't care
- to believe in him. I completely agree with you.
- And, by the way, I believe this counts as your demuffining post,
- so....
- *pounce*
- *nibble*
- *munchmunch*
- *HUG!!!*
- Thanks for writing....always gives me warm fuzzies to know that there are
- hets out there who love us too....
- Zoe
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