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- From: anderson@macc.wisc.edu (Jess Anderson)
- Subject: Re: Surly French waiters
- Message-ID: <1992Nov22.064029.2316@macc.wisc.edu>
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- Organization: Madison Academic Computing Center, UW-Madison
- References: <michaelh.722202225@Xenon.Stanford.EDU> <nosenseofirony@kaa.gr.osf.org> <1992Nov21.212619.29280@microsoft.com>
- Date: Sun, 22 Nov 92 06:40:29 GMT
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- In article <1992Nov21.212619.29280@microsoft.com>
- frankm@microsoft.com (Frank R.A.J. Maloney) writes:
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- >In article <nosenseofirony@kaa.gr.osf.org>
- >emcmanus@gr.osf.org (Eamonn McManus) writes:
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- >>michaelh@Xenon.Stanford.EDU (Mike Hennahane) writes:
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- >>>>> Ok, Matthew, what about that surly waiter you had??
-
- >>>>He was French.
-
- >>>need he say more?
-
- >>mattm@apple.com (Matthew Melmon) writes:
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- >>>(you are correct, however, about it being *your* fault the Frenchman
- >>>exhibited his natural inclinations towards French-ness...)
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- >>So Frenchmen are naturally surly, are they? Well I suppose it might
- >>seem that way to Americans, stupid and vulgar as they are.
-
- >I must say I am disappointed in Eamonn for succumbing to the
- >very natural urge to say something nasty to the m-person by
- >heaping calumny on the other 300 million of us. I know I am
- >neither stupid nor vulgar, and and I am an American.
-
- >I, for one, would appreciate it if Eamonn could sharpen his
- >aim a trifle the next time he wishes to get off a potshot.
- >And include me, and those like me, out.
-
- I think you've missed the essence of Eamonn's point, Frank.
- I took him to be showing how ignorant the Francophobic
- remark was by making a comparable slur about Americans.
- Americans offended by the throught he expresses would then
- maybe make the connection to how offensive the remark about
- the waiter was, for *that* was the truly stupid and vulgar
- remark.
-
- <> Dustin Pons, an American high-school student who attended a
- <> Soviet school for three weeks, as quoted in the New York Times:
- <> "American teenagers are more socially advanced. For instance,
- <> in their free time Soviets would rather read a book or walk in
- <> the park or play the piano. American teenagers would probably
- <> go out and watch TV, go to a movie, or something more actively
- <> inclined."
- <> -- "The Progressive"
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