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- From: mudge@ucsu.Colorado.EDU (MUDGE BRIAN WAYNE)
- Subject: Re: Oprah 11/19
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- Date: Fri, 20 Nov 1992 16:08:48 GMT
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- In article <1992Nov20.040700.26375@col.hp.com> smithw@col.hp.com (Walter Smith) writes:
- >(This is from my wife, using my account...it's her first time using
- >USENET, so cut her some slack...)
- >1) I believe that whether a person is gay or straight depends on genetics.
- >Therefore, when a person is born, it has already been determined...being
- >gay is not "learned behavior that one can change" as the religious fanatics
- >would have us believe. Is this belief correct?
-
- Sorry, the jury is still out on this one. One study has shown that, in
- identical twins raised separately (same genes, different environment), if
- one twin is gay, the other twin has a MORE THAN AVERAGE chance of being
- gay as well. (someone posted the bibliography on this in motss.FAQ awhile
- back) This has been used by some researchers who propose that homosexuality
- has a genetic link, but is not genetically predetermined. (if genes alone
- dictated sexual orientation, identical twins would have identical sexual
- orientations.)
- One significant hole in this theory is that twins also share the same
- in utero environment. That is to say, they are not *quite* brought up
- in separate environments.
- Studies with mice have indicated that sexual orientation may be affected
- by hormone fluxuations in the in utero environment. Mice aren't people,
- and the exact analogy between mice and men isn't exactly clear.
-
-
- >2) During the Oprah episode,
- >several "straight" individuals accused a couple of lesbians on the show of
- >really wanting to be men since they chose to dress or "act" like most people
- >think men should behave. My question then is: Like a heterosexual relation-
- >ship, do homosexual relationships generally have male and female roles...the
- >more dominant individual portraying a male role?
-
- As with any relationship with two people, there are three basic possibilities
- that are likely to occurr:
- 1.) dominance of one over the other (one takes the aggressive "male" role,
- while one assumes a submissive, stereotypical "female" role)
- 2.) equality of both partners: self explanitory
- 3.) codominance ( the partners trade off dominant roles, depending on skill
- levels, and individual tastes)
- (BTW, if your question was meant to be sexual in nature, tastes vary so
- widely amongst people that I hesitate to guess. I think that most settle
- for some variation of the above in the bedroom as well as in their private
- lives.)
-
- >Before I get crucified, I would like to explain that I was brought up in a
-
- 'ts ok, I'm friendly. :)
-
- >religious cult-type environment where I was taught that being homosexual was
- >evil and that God hated this behavior. Luckily, I broke away from this
- >situation about five years ago, when I was thirty. I have never really
- >felt that God would hate someone who is different. In fact, Jesus said we
-
- Good for you. And thanks.
-
- >should love everyone and professed Christians should learn from Jesus'
- >example that it is wrong to hate...we are all brothers (and sisters). I
- >continue to defend anyone who is looked down upon for being different than
- >society dictates. What I am getting at is that I really want to understand.
- >I know that being gay is far more than a sexual preference....heterosexuals
- >will say the same thing. It is who they are; it is their life. I really
- >don't have any gay friends (or maybe I do, but just aren't aware).
- >
- >If anyone would like to respond to my questions, I would appreciate it.
- >Again, my questions (though probably ignorant) are sincere. By the way,
- >my family and I have lived in Colorado Springs for just a few months. I
- >can't believe how intolerant people are here of others. We are from the
- >East coast where people seem to be more open-minded. The religious
- >influence here (with all the "Christians" groups who seem to be rather
- >self-righteous) is a little hard to take. Since being involved with that
- >cult I mentioned above, I still haven't found any group that I wish to be
- >part of. I do believe in God -- a God who loves everyone for the person
- >he/she is...what they believe in their hearts and how they treat others.
- >If you know of a group who subscribes to this belief, please do let me know.
-
- Good luck. I know there are very tolerant branches of christianity out
- there. Unfortunately, being an atheist, I don't keep track.
-
- Bri......
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