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- From: snodgras@lclark.edu (Bil Snodgrass)
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- Subject: Re: Oprah 11/19
- Message-ID: <1992Nov20.134034.1822@lclark.edu>
- Date: 20 Nov 92 13:40:34 GMT
- Article-I.D.: lclark.1992Nov20.134034.1822
- References: <1992Nov19.191528.2610@drycas.club.cc.cmu.edu> <1992Nov20.040700.26375@col.hp.com>
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- In article <1992Nov20.040700.26375@col.hp.com> smithw@col.hp.com (Walter Smith) writes:
- >(This is from my wife, using my account...it's her first time using
- >USENET, so cut her some slack...)
- >
- >I, too, watched Oprah today and continue to be amazed at how intolerant
- >people can be of others just because of their sexual orientation. As a
- >mother of four, I don't understand how any parent could turn their back
- >on their child just because of who their child is. I confess that I am
- >ignorant when it comes to understanding what makes some people a "four-
- >leaf clover, when most are three." (Oprah's analogy for gay vs. straight
- >orientation.)
-
- She didn't say that. Oprah was stating that most clovers are three leafed
- and some are four leafed. Four leafed clovers are supposidly looked
- upon as being lucky...in a positive light. Oprah was saying we just
- are Gay, we are a little special. It was clean and simple. And
- I really did appreciated her using it. She also insisted a few times
- that being Gay was NOT a choice!!! And I could have kissed her on
- the lips for that!
-
- Therefore, I would like to ask a couple of probably really
- >dumb questions, but please believe me that I am sincere and only ask
- >because I do care about other people and have a desire to understand. So,
- >1) I believe that whether a person is gay or straight depends on genetics.
- >Therefore, when a person is born, it has already been determined...being
- >gay is not "learned behavior that one can change" as the religious fanatics
- >would have us believe. Is this belief correct?
-
- This is what I believe....
-
- 2) During the Oprah episode,
- >several "straight" individuals accused a couple of lesbians on the show of
- >really wanting to be men since they chose to dress or "act" like most people
- >think men should behave. My question then is: Like a heterosexual relation-
- >ship, do homosexual relationships generally have male and female roles...the
- >more dominant individual portraying a male role?
-
- In my relationships no one acts we just are who we are. Positioning depends
- on the mood and desires of the couple. I don't know about you but when I am
- in bed there is a lot of rolling around and repositioning. I have
- heard that in heterosexual lovemaking the woman just lays there and fakes
- it while the man uses her vagina. That sounds really cold. Is this true?
-
-
- >
- >Before I get crucified, I would like to explain that I was brought up in a
- >religious cult-type environment where I was taught that being homosexual was
- >evil and that God hated this behavior. Luckily, I broke away from this
- >situation about five years ago, when I was thirty. I have never really
- >felt that God would hate someone who is different.
-
- We aren't different! We are Children of God, just like you. We are
- not different in that light. As indiviuals though we are very diverse.....
-
- Bil Snodgrass III
-