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- From: aberno@godel.questor.wimsey.bc.ca (Anthony Berno)
- Newsgroups: soc.motss
- Subject: Ugliness (was Bears and Lookism)
- Message-ID: <1992Nov20.052351.8368@godel.questor.wimsey.bc.ca>
- Date: Fri, 20 Nov 1992 05:23:51 GMT
- References: <Bxz8Fy.Fwu@cck.coventry.ac.uk>
- Sender: aberno@godel.questor.wimsey.bc.ca
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- In article <Bxz8Fy.Fwu@cck.coventry.ac.uk> idx009@cck.coventry.ac.uk (the
- Crisco Kid) writes:
- > In article <1992Nov18.233802.6861@psych.toronto.edu>
- paul@psych.toronto.edu (Paul Hastings) writes:
- > >In article <BxxFB0.91H@cck.coventry.ac.uk> idx009@cck.coventry.ac.uk
- (the Crisco Kid) writes:
- > >>In article <1992Nov17.213558.4677@godel.questor.wimsey.bc.ca>
- aberno@godel.questor.wimsey.bc.ca writes:
- > >>>Interesting discussion. How about the perspective of someone who is
- ugly?
- > >>But first you'll have to find someone who'll come out as ugly...
- > >NEVER!
- >
- > I don't know. I guess there are people out there who think I'm ugly.
- > Fine. So I'm ugly to them? Whoop-de-doo. The most wonderful guy
- > in the world thinks I'm beautiful...
-
- Now that I think about it, I've met a fellow in Seattle that wears a pin
- reading "Ugly and PROUD". *I* wouldn't kick him out of my bed, however.
- :-)
-
- You see, when people ask me what I like in a man, my short response is
- "Big, Dumb and Ugly". (Using the terms with great affection, of course.)
- This is to a great extent true, although I don't like all ugly men, and
- some of my lust objects are rather classically handsome...
-
- It's a problem, you see, because I feel a strong cognitive dissonance when
- faced with certain men. My simultaneous reactions are "Wow, he's ugly" and
- "Wow, he's BEAUTIFUL!". One side is the judgement of society; the other is
- my own. The latter has never successfully drowned out the former, although
- for the past five years it has definitely had the upper hand.
-
- There was a time, however, when I would feel a certain inexplicable
- attraction to men, to which I reacted by saying to myself "You can't be
- attracted to HIM..." My feeling is that there are a very large number of
- people for whom this is true, which is tragic, since that implies a very
- large number of lonely men going home to an empty bed when in fact there
- are any number of people that are attracted to them. The pressure to not
- express an attraction for the "wrong" person is very strong, and is at
- least half the reason that some people have a hard time finding dates.
-
- So there are two sides to "ugly-liberation". One is from ugly people
- rejecting what society tells them. The other half is people letting
- themselves acknowledge that what society finds ugly is what they find
- beautiful. After all, the person that finds ugliness where others find
- beauty is a boor; the person that finds beauty where others find ugliness
- is an artist.
-
- -Anthony
-
-