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- From: balistik@big-brother.nevada.edu (Shawn Hicks)
- Subject: Re: Military info needed
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- Date: Thu, 19 Nov 1992 17:30:44 GMT
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- In article <1992Nov16.193451.19287@PacBell.COM>, rjwill6@PacBell.COM (Rod Williams) writes:
-
- >You have to remember that these generals and admirals --
- >Powell, Crowe, Schwarzkopf -- are not in the business of
- >implementing or even supporting social justice. Their job is
- >to maintain an effective and cohesive military. Decisions
- >like integrating the military racially, allowing women to
- >serve in combat roles and overturning the ban on gays and
- >lesbians are *political* decisions, all of which were or
- >are "prejudicial to good order and discipline." The generals
- >wouldn't be doing their job if they supported these changes.
-
- I never thought about it this way before. Actually, though,
- I think it has more to do with age. Society's values change
- over time. Personal values rarely change to any great extent.
-
- >The question is not whether opening the military to out gays
- >and lesbians would hurt it in some way -- plainly it would
- >(will) to some extent *in*the*short-term*.
-
- I'm not so sure it's that "plain." The military is already
- crammed with homosexuals. A great many of them, regardless
- of what they think, are not as hidden as they'd like to be.
- Everyone I worked with just assumed I was queer. They were
- right. I never had a single problem. The real problem is
- with the Generals and other high ranking officials that
- can't admit to having homosexuals already.
-
- When the ban is lifted you wont see thousands of uniformed
- queers popping out of the closets. You wont see gay pride
- marches down the center of the base. You wont see pink
- triangles on M-16s. What you will see is a military that
- looks very much the same as it does now.
-
- As for the UCMJ sodomy laws... fooey. They also have a
- law that forbids sex out of marriage and adultery. Get
- real.
-
-
- Right now, homosexuality is the #1 tool used to kick women
- out of the military.
-
-
- Shawn
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