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- From: dyarman@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Donald L Yarman)
- Subject: Re: Rap (Yes, you're still in soc.motss) (Re: Marky Mark
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- Date: Thu, 19 Nov 1992 15:43:21 GMT
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- In article <1992Nov19.090324.12540@ads.com> henry@ADS.COM (Henry Mensch) writes
- :
- >lovegod@wam.umd.edu (Donald Andrew Agarrat) wrote:
- >->... It's a Black thing and most Gay White men can't relate to
- >->it and don't understand it.
- >
- >what an ignorant thing to say.>
-
- Actually, no, it wasn't. Rap is very much a "black thing." It
- is rooted in very old patterns of African and African-American
- communicative styles, and is tied intimately with the realities
- of Black existence. Rap is linked to the communicative phenomenon
- of "signifying," something that those individuals raised outside
- of Black culture cannot easily understand.
-
- Donald wasn't being racist when he said that white, gay men
- couldn't understand; but he was, I think, overstating his case
- a bit. I think "camping" in gay culture (or "cultchah," if you
- prefer) provides an analogy to signifying. It will take some
- work, but I think white people _can_ (eventually) come to
- some sort of understanding.
-
- --Don (who tries)
-