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- From: michaelh@Xenon.Stanford.EDU (Mike Hennahane)
- Subject: Re: Bear Crap
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- Date: 17 Nov 92 01:19:41 GMT
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- rdonahue@spdcc.com (Bob Donahue) writes:
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- > Soc.motss is still the most heterogeneous GBLO*_group I have
- >ever seen, but it's becoming more homogeneous over time. I don't
- >think it's in any danger of losing it, andI'm certinaly
- >not predicting the "death of the net" or "death of the group",
- >but before Mike et alia start patting themselves on the back for
- >"showing that this is the work of a few deranged people", there
- >is sufficient evidence to show that yes, indeed soc.motss has had
- >its share of "anti-bear" postings/threads.
-
- i think that there are "deranged people" that criticise every group
- here from time to time. maybe it's not as true as it has been in the
- past (due to the bear list, or whatever), but i still think that bears
- have lots of representation here. in fact, i would guess that the
- perceived over-representation of bears was the cause of a fair number
- of the anti-bear postings/threads. i guess that i see this as the ebb
- and flow of the participants (or the vocal-ness of the participants).
-
- > Now is it a BIG THING? No, there are inclusivity issues
- >that greatly exceed the need to be more bear-sensitive. Certainly
- >seeing more womyn is one, minorities another. When was the last time
- >we heard anything aboutthe radical faeries here? Girth and Mirth?
- >Womyn's music fstivals? I'm especially concerned about the presence
- >of motss.womyn because the intial data from the aborted sample
- >above indicated that the %age of womyn DECREASED over the last 2.5 years
- >almost by 50%! To me that's alarming...
-
- yes.
-
- me:
- >>thanks, melinda. you have crystalized my thoughts exactly.
-
- > Are you sure you want to use that word? I'm tempted to
- >agree but not gfor the same reasons you want.
-
- i did not post because i wanted you to agree (and if i thought about
- it, i would probably have used different words). the point of my
- posting (and melinda's i think) is that i get crabby sometimes reading
- yet another GDM whiny evangelical hell-fire bears uber alles posting.
- he really alienates me (and others it would seem), and i think that
- some of this is what carries over when people make comments to *you*
- (bob) about liking anything that has a beard because you are a bear
- lover (cf. marky mark discussion).
-
- --mike
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