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- From: rdonahue@spdcc.com (Bob Donahue)
- Newsgroups: soc.motss
- Subject: Re: Marky Mark and Calvin Klein (was Re: Scott Masden)
- Message-ID: <1992Nov16.200449.27480@spdcc.com>
- Date: 16 Nov 92 20:04:49 GMT
- Article-I.D.: spdcc.1992Nov16.200449.27480
- References: <1992Nov15.071423.22916@midway.uchicago.edu> <1992Nov15.172253.29546@spdcc.com> <1992Nov16.160553.9327@netcom.com>
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- stephena@netcom.com (Stephen Arrants) writes:
- >rdonahue@spdcc.com (Bob Donahue) writes:
-
- >> Someday, SOMEDAY we might grow up enough to choose
- >>our idols with our heads instead of our balls. That will
- >>make the choice doubly-sweet if said choice is also *HOT* by our
- >>own "standards of objectifyable excellence".
- >>
-
- >Oh c'mon, Bob. There's a difference between an idol and an object of lust.
-
- Is there? I think that depends on the person.
-
- >Objects of lust are allowed a little more leeway. If Mr. Marky Mark was
- >exactly the same person yet had lots of body hair, a beard, and fit the "bear"
- >image, I'm sure you're comment would be much more muted. Methinks thou doth
- >protest too much.
-
- I am *so* fucking sick of this argument. It makes the basic
- assumption that deep down we're all as petty and shallow as the most
- visible shallow person among us. What utter crap. While this might
- be a reflection of how*you* think, Stephen, (for which I am utterly
- surprised) it doesn't necessarily apply to me.
-
- Sorry, you're barking up the wrong bear. Better luck next time.
- For your collective edification, when confronted with the scenario above
- my reaction tends to be "nice bear - too bad he's such an asshole".
- aI can think of a few people where I work that fit this description - on
- a purely physical level they might be very hot, but knowing them, and
- not liking it makes it impossible for me to even think aboutoutside of those
- terms.
-
- Now of course it could be that some of the people I lust after
- are in reality complete jerks, and I just don't know it yet. That in
- fact has happened before on campus. I guess the overriding motto is:
- there are plenty of bears in the sea why waste time on the assholes?
-
- Put another way - it is interesting to see how much the people I have
- respect for I think are attractive even if they don't spark lust in my heart.
- The same goes the other way - almost all of the people I cna't stand I am
- not attracted to - and some of them could be described as "bears".
-
- Methinks you assume too much. How sad.
-
- BBC
-