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- From: drb@kepler.unh.edu (InigoMontoya)
- Newsgroups: soc.motss
- Subject: Re: discrimination at CMU
- Date: 15 Nov 1992 03:57:59 GMT
- Organization: University of New Hampshire - Durham, NH
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- AUGH!
- First of all, I would like to know how many of the people who have been
- posting on this thread are actors. I must admit that I don't really know
- what goes on at 'professional' acting schools, but I do know what sort of
- training I recieved. I know what I was taught being an actor means. Acting
- is not done in isolation. Acting, like all other sincere artistic expression,
- comes from experience, from life, from the individual. It seems to me then,
- that these so-called mannerisms aren't all that much of a drawback. Granted,
- someone who can only play one role may not earn much respect as an actor, but
- even this hardly means that she won't be succesful.
-
- Now, here's a little logic.
- (I don't mean to seem condescending here, I just thought that I would do
- what is so rarely done in an argument and put the hypothesis into a clear,
- logical form for all to see.
-
-
- Fallacy:
- If a student is not succesfully accomplishing the goals of her program, she
- will be asked to leave by the faculty in a letter stating the reason.
- A student was asked to leave in a letter stating the reason.
- ---------------------------------------------------------------
- The student was not succesfully accomplishing the goals of her program.
-
-
- It is subtle, but this is the fallacy of confirming the consequent, and it
- is what you people are doing. You do not know if this young man was a
- capable actor. All you do know, from what was posted is that he was kicked
- out. You are concluding from this fact that the faculty must have been
- correct. I don't know why, but somehow it seems much more likely to me that
- an influential faculty member was allowing his personal prejudices (in this case
- against homosexual men and overweight women apparently) to cloud his judgement.
- This is hardly professional. Again, I don't have any overwhelming evidence to
- support this conclusion, but I think that the fact that 16 (or 18?) students
- were kicked out for these reasons, combined with the fact that CMU has itself
- concluded that these activities constituted wrong doing, point in that
- direction.
-
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