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- From: gcf@panix.com (Gordon Fitch)
- Newsgroups: soc.feminism
- Subject: Re: Violence Against Women Act
- Date: 22 Nov 1992 01:14:49 GMT
- Organization: mydog in exile
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- Sender: muffy@mica.berkeley.edu (Muffy Barkocy)
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- goid@zooid.guild.ORG (Will Steeves) writes:
- | ...
- | Please do not consider this as a flame, but as an indication that
- | "gender bias" does not exclusively pertain to women...
-
- | csulaima@titan.ucc.umass.EDU (CYNTHIA R SULAIMAN) writes...
- | CRS> As part of the Education Bill in June 1992, four provisions were
- | CRS> inacted to help women in this country.
- | ^^^^^^^^^^
- | CRS> 1. Promoting arrest of abusive spouses.
- | ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
- | You have stated that the Bill is intended to "help women" by promoting
- | arrest of "abusive spouses". Since you did not originally state that
- | the Bill was intended to help *any* abused spouse, but only "women,"
- | it appears as though you have a clear bias that only men can be
- | abusive spouses. Naturally, I take a certain amount of umbrage at
- | this suggestion.
- |
- | CRS> 2. Tripling the funding for battered women's shelters.
- | ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
- | ...again
- |
- | CRS> B. Creates federal penalties for spouse abusers who follow the women
- | ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
- | CRS> across state lines to continue the abuse.
- |
- | "Spouse abusers who follow the women". Since you have basically
- | assumed away the idea of "spouse abusers who follow the men," you may
- | as well have just said "abusive husbands who follow the women," which
- | would of course reveal beyond a shadow of a doubt that many of those
- | who talk of "spousal abuse" are only thinking of women as "legitimate
- | victims". ...
-
- I think the issue is one of handling the worst problems
- first. For instance, while the initiation of combat in the
- home is about evenly distributed between the sexes, since
- men are generally larger, stronger, and more experienced in
- fighting, the men generally wind up creating more damage to
- their opponents than the other way around. Hence, if we are
- interested in the suppression or remedy of such damage, we
- must inhibit the male participants first, and provide for
- those who do not have private means to escape the still
- uninhibited.
-
- If you were to observe, however, that the virtual impossi-
- bility of obtaining shelter quickly and inexpensively may
- contribute to domestic violence, I would have to agree with
- you. Many people are thrown together who should probably
- be able to escape one another. This situation is at least
- partly a result of the public policies approved by a
- majority of the American electorate in 1980, 1984, and 1988
- and will not be overcome soon or easily.
-
- In regard to the pursuit of escaping spouses, in those
- cases I have heard about the pursuer has always been male.
- Here, we are moving from violence in the home to violence
- in the outer world, in which male humans, just like male
- cats and dogs, definitely predominate. No doubt some
- women have done this, but how many? Is it a public
- problem?
-
- (Note that I have left off material about defining sex
- crimes as bias or hate crimes; this is another issue.)
-
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