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- From: boserj@netcom.COM (Jeffrey Boser)
- Subject: Re: camille paglia
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- Date: 20 Nov 92 01:44:17 GMT
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- wkl1@ra.msstate.EDU (Wing-Keong Loke) writes:
-
- >>Camille Paglia is an anti-feminist who calls herself various other
- >>Her moral philosophy seems to be based on a notion of natural law.
- >>From the facts that men dominate and rape women in pre-civilized
- >>societies (one can argue about whether this is a fact, but she takes
- >>it as one), she concludes that rape and domination are natural
- >>aspects of the relationship between men and women. Of course even
- >>she does not conclude from this that they are good things. But she
- >>does conclude that because they are natural, it is unreasonable to
- >>expect them to be eliminated, and anyone who behaves as if they do
- >>not exist is behaving irrationally and deserves whatever they get.
- >
- > Her theory is easily shot down: don't
- >people commit murder in prehistoric times as a matter of
- >natural law?
- >--wkl--
-
- Actually, your shot reinforces it. Murder will never be eliminated,
- but by understanding the motives and methods, we as individuals and
- as a society are better equiped to deal with it.
-
- I find her theory past due. The feminist movement has resulted in
- quite a few men changing their behaviors, quite a bit of self
- discovery and growth, and a tremendous improvement in communication
- methods and awareness. Seems to me that masculinity has aspects
- that women can benefit from too, and that trying to understand it
- can only help.
-
- Sexuality is expressed in many ways, and the lines between female
- and male keep getting more and more vague. I like having the freedom
- to need comfort and cuddling and intimacy (the 'female'), as well
- as the need for fast, agressive, feral sexuality (the 'male'). I
- certainly am not going to deny either side to me.
-
- ....jeff
-
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