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- From: mec6@midway.uchicago.EDU (rini)
- Subject: Re: Camille Paglia is GOD! was Re: camille paglia
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- Message-ID: <1992Nov15.184825.11100@midway.uchicago.edu>
- Newsgroups: soc.feminism
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- Organization: University of Chicago Computing Organizations
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- Date: 18 Nov 92 18:30:24 GMT
- References: <1dv7hnINNa6@agate.berkeley.edu> <1992Nov14.083248.27164@leland.Stanford.EDU>
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- farthing@leland.Stanford.EDU (ljf) writes:
- Jason R. Pascucci <jasonp@PRIMERD.Prime.COM> writes:
-
- >>I, personally, loathe rape in any of it's forms, and it's on of the
- >>only things left I feel strongly enough to kill for. There are other
- >>ways to obtain a 'wild, infectious delirium', none of which involve
- >>a breach of consent.
-
- >Exactly. And yet you seem to think that it isn't rape if a woman is
- >"stupid" enough to get drunk and can't defend herself. Maybe she
- >should wear a tag saying, "I don't consent to any sex." Would that
- >suffice if she were too drunk to say yes or no?
-
- I haven't read Paglia's books, so maybe someone out there can help me
- understand something.
-
- From what I've gathered, she believes that an drunkenly, unconscious
- date cannot be raped. Now my question is: why?
-
- Is it because sie is unconconsious and thus cannot say "no" and/or
- fight the sexual advances? In that case, is it okay to have sex with
- your date if sie is knocked unconscious by, oh, a meteor...? Or,
- maybe more likely, a car accident or an epileptic fit?
-
- Or is it because sie was stupid enough to get too drunk and thus is
- legitimately a victim? In this case, does Paglia also argue that it
- is okay to take drunk's wallets? ("Honest -- sie didn't say I
- *couldn't* have it! And if sie didn't want me to have it... why'd sie
- get so drunk?")
-
- From the little I've heard, I don't understand wherein Paglia's
- argument lies.
-
- rini
-
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