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- From: chetnik@infopls.chi.il.us (Andre Popov)
- Newsgroups: soc.culture.yugoslavia
- Subject: A. Popov (AKA: Chetnik) and his posts etc..ALL READ THIS
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- Date: Sat, 21 Nov 92 00:00:19 CST
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- Democracy ISSUE #:PROCLMTN DATE:11/19/92
- & TITLE: PROCLAMATION TO INTERNET USERS
- Freedom!! ORIGIN/AUTHOR: A.P.
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- I M P O R T A N T
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- TO ALL INTERNET USERS,
- READERS OF SOC.CULTURE.BOSNA-HERZGVNA
- READERS OF SOC.CULTURE.YUGOSLAVIA
-
- FROM A. POPOV <--> TO ALL READERS
-
- OPENING STATEMENT
- It has come to my attention that some people just can't handle the
- content of the messages I've been posting, my handle (Chetnik), or
- me at all. This concerns me greatly.
-
- THE SERBIAN-AMERICAN ONLINE INFO. EX. RELEASES
- Messages that I post with the above title heading are for informative
- purposes. If they are news articles, the source and date is always
- mentioned. Nothing is fabricated. If they are views/opinons and such,
- the author's name is always given. Articles exposing the "untold"
- story are usually selected, as you can read about the plights of Muslims
- and Croatians (and countless others) in the world media, while the
- plights of the Serbs are going virtually unnoticed. Everyone in the
- former Yugoslavia is a victim of the war -- and no single group can
- be singled out as "victim" or "aggressor." It is our (S.A.O.I.E.) goal
- to provide you with information that will help you to understand just
- what is going on in the former Yugoslavia and why. While there are
- many who will disagree with what is stated, if you'd take the time to
- do some research you can judge for yourself. The validity of historical
- information printed in the releases of the Serbian-American Online
- Info. Ex. are unquestionable. That does not mean that you should
- not question it. Feel free to research the information provided and you
- can then make the judgement. We at the S.A.O.I.E. have done our
- homework, and find the information provided reliable. We urge all who
- question our releases (in the U.S.) to use the Freedom of Information
- Act and request official government records and files from the
- appropriate agencies. Remember, there are 2 sides to every story, and
- we're giving you the other side. As Peter Brock, an American Journal-
- ist, frequent visitor of Yugoslavia, now political editor of the El
- Paso Daily Herald wrote on 7/16/92, "Today only half of the Yugoslav
- story is being told to Western audiences - the Croatian side."
- Please do not hold me accountable for what you read from the
- S.A.O.I.E. unless it specifically states that I wrote it myself,
- which is very seldom to ever occur. For example, I have gotten many
- replies regarding news articles and the Congressional Report given
- before Congress by Rep. Jim Moody of Wisconsin. I did not write these
- articles or reports - I am simply distributing them to say. How do
- you expect me to answer questions on things are not even mine?
- Suppose I criticized you for a speech made by President Bush - that
- in effect is what is happening here. If I did not write the article,
- please don't burden me with lengthy responses - send them to the
- source. Although I appreciate feedback, I don't have time to argue on
- behalf of someone else.
-
- MY HANDLE - CHETNIK
- You may think differently of the Chetniks than I, or you may not
- even know what or who the Chetniks were/are. Now this is a
- controvercial topic, and everyone (Serbs, Croats, Muslims etc.) has
- their own version of who the Chetniks are and what. But let me tell
- you what the U.S. said of them. In 1948, President Harry S. Truman
- awarded the Chetnik leader Gen. Mihailovic with the Legion of Merit.
- There is an official Chetnik day marked in Chicago - proclaimed by
- former Mayor Edward J. Kelly. A memorial to the Chetniks is being
- erected in Washington D.C. to honor the U.S.'s allies during WW II.
- This memorial is not being erected by Serbs, but rather by U.S.
- veterans of WW II, prominent Congressmen, and government officials
- in recognition of one of our greatest allies.
- What you know or think of the Chetniks may or may not be true. If
- you don't believe what I've wrote - feel free to research from a
- credible source. Don't simply believe what I, the S.A.O.I.E., or
- anyone else for that matter tells you. That is the whole problem,
- we tend to believe everything. Read the Report of Commission of
- Inquiry -- of the -- Committee For A Fair Trial For Draja Mihail-
- ovich put together by a U.S. Congressional commission. It is as
- unbiased as it could possibly get - detailing just about everything
- there is to know. Some call the Chetniks Nazis, fascists, etc. etc.
- Those people either have been brought up that way, or are simply
- ignorant. Whatever the reason - they don't know the TRUTH.
- For those of you that are offended by my use of CHETNIK, I am sorry.
- I am also sorry that you don't know know (or don't want to know)
- the truth. I have posted a messaged titled The Chetniks in regards
- to who and what they were/are.
-
- CONFLICTING IDEAS
- There are many Croats, Muslims, Serbs etc. etc. posing in these
- various message bases - each working to further their own cause. I
- respect this. Wether I believe what others say or not - everyone
- is entitled to say as they wish. We all have our beliefs, deeply
- rooted within us, and we are unlikely to change them. I came here
- to further the Serbian cause in general. But I also work for
- certain aspects of the Croatian and Bosnian Muslim causes also.
- This may seem odd, but it shouldn't. I want to see all these
- countries free and democratic -- I want to see justice, which in
- my opinon isn't being served. I want to expose what I and many
- others consider as being the TRUTH. But what is the truth? The
- fact of the matter is, everyone fighting in the former Yugoslavia
- is guilty, and everyone is a victim -- but some parties hold more
- guilt and suffering than others. As a French journalist recently
- said in an interview, "The truth is disturbing to all sides in this
- war...and nobody wants the truth to get out." I agree with this
- statement. I was very disturbed to learn of the POW camps run by
- Bosnian Serbs for Croatians and Muslims. This is unjust, and should
- be dealt with harshly. But if justice is to be served, then the
- Croatian-run, and Muslim-run POW camps for Serbs should also be
- dealt with harshly. Human Rights abuses are widespread in the former-
- Yugoslavia, and no side is immaculate of them. But as I said, some
- are more to blame than others. This policy of "ethnic cleansing" is
- to be harshly condemned and should in no way be permitted. The UN has
- confirmed that militias from all sides have taken up this dreadful
- tactic, and should be condemned. Innocent people of all sides are
- suffering, children and adults alike. Nobody deserves such a fate.
- That's where my next point comes along...
-
- STOP THE MADNESS
- I did not come to exchange insults, racist remarks, death threats,
- etc. Yet, this is what I've been receiving from numerous people.
- To put it bluntly, CUT THE S@IT. Those of you out there know who
- you are. There is enough pain and suffering going on in the
- former Yugoslavia and we don't need to spread it and the hate
- around. I have no problems with others working for their causes,
- and I ask the same respect for myself. These USENET bases give
- us the opportunity to discuss events taking place in our home lands
- like civilized people -- we are given the chance to do something
- our leaders couldn't really do -- TALK. There is no need to
- further the madness. I don't appreciate being called a "beast" or
- "Serbian scum" by various people here. Who are you to judge me?
- If we can't communicate like sensible human beings, then I ask you
- to go your own way, and leave me to go mine. We don't have to live
- together, communicate, but we have to RESPECT one another. I
- call upon all of the Serbs, Croats, Muslims and any other parties out
- there to come to an understanding that there is no need to spread the
- violence and hatred which have started the conflicts. We have a
- unique chance to debate and discuss important issues to us without
- resolving them with guns. There's been enough of that.
- INCREASE THE PEACE
- As Rodney King said, "Can't we get along..?" Those of us that are
- Christians here (e.x. Serbs and Croats) believe in the same God, same
- Jesus Christ, we exchange wishes of PEACE and JOY at Christmas time,
- yet some of us are not sincere. Hypocrites! There is no reason why
- we can't co-exist peacefully..but all that is up to the politicians
- back in the homelands. It is up to us to see to it that we here on
- the Internet peacefully co-exist and cut the garbage that I've seen
- circulating around. These death threats and such are very serious
- matters, and I in NO way appreciate them. For those of you that deal
- with such matters -- ask yourselves, "What has this man ever done to
- me, besides fighting for his own cause?" I have nothing against you
- people out there posting messages to further a cause which you see
- noble and just, and I don't see why you should see otherwise of mine?
- You catch what I'm saying? RESPECT is the term to remember.
- I don't have the time or will to deal with extremeists who will stop
- at nothing to vent their anger and rage at someone. I have done
- NOTHING to NOBODY and ask you to take that into consideration when
- leaving me your heart warming replies (you know who you are).
-
- CLOSING
- I hope that a peaceful sollution to the Yugoslav crisis as it has
- come to be called, is found and I am working towards this goal.
- I hope that you come to a better understanding of the former
- Yugoslavia and her peoples as a result of these USENET bases.
- I hope that you won't let yourselves become secceptible to lies
- and misinformation from ANYONE. Remember that education is the key
- to understanding.
- I ask all of you to maintain a civilized and humane tone when
- posting messages.
- In closing, I leave you all with the wish of freedom, peace,
- democracy, freedom, and justice FOR ALL!
- GOD SAVE US!
- Sincerely,
- Andre Popov
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