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- From: dbd@urartu.sdpa.org (David Davidian)
- Subject: Islam versus Religion
- Message-ID: <1992Nov21.023943.3872@urartu.sdpa.org>
- Summary: Islam and Ataturk
- Organization: S.D.P.A. Center for Regional Studies
- Date: Sat, 21 Nov 1992 02:39:43 GMT
- Lines: 37
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- In article <1992Nov20.142135.15324@sol.ctr.columbia.edu> deniz@mandolin.ctr.
- columbia.edu (Deniz Akkus) wrote, among other things:
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- [DA] I think that Islam is a religion, not a way of life.
-
- I don't know what you learned about "religion", especially Islam, but it WAS a
- way of life, a culture, by definition!. It was a way of life for Beduin Arabs
- that made their lives better, healthier, than before Islam. I suggest you
- locate a reference on the way of life of Beduin Arab women before Islam. You
- would find that Islam was an emancipation for these women. Today, Islam can
- look foolish or has been made to look foolish in this context, because the
- world from which we view Islam from has changed.
-
- It's when a way of life of a social group becomes an institution, that is
- becomes a "religion" as we know it today. Just read the Quran, it is a program
- for a way of life. If the tenets of Islam are not viewed from within the
- context from which they were set -- from the social environment from which
- they were established in -- Islam makes little sense, and thus can be "viewed
- for the West" by those who are opposed to what Islam represents today.
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- Viewing Islam today, with today's values, can make it look foolish, as can
- most any "way of life established many centuries ago".
-
- I am suggesting you re-think your statement. I also suspect I am in your kill
- file, and a such would ask others to forward this response to you.
-
- Now, regarding Ataturk and his role in "transforming a society": when Ataturk
- suppressed Islam in Turkey, he forcibly changed the way of life of a people,
- Ottoman Turks, into Modern Turks. I suggest you think about this viewpoint
- regarding what we have come to know as "religion".
-
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