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- From: vivek@ecst.csuchico.edu (Vivek R. Prabhu)
- Newsgroups: soc.culture.pakistan,soc.culture.indian
- Subject: Re: Report from Pakistan Occupied Kashmir.
- Message-ID: <1em353INNhvf@charnel.ecst.csuchico.edu>
- Date: 21 Nov 92 19:37:07 GMT
- References: <102779@bu.edu>
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- In article <102779@bu.edu> amuh2@bass.bu.edu (muhammad ahmed) writes:
- >
- > A military campaign called operation Tiger, which began in August, has
- >also resulted in the sexual abuse and murder of noncombatants a
- >preliminary report from Asia Watch and Physicians for Human rights
- >concludes. It says that patients are dragged from hospital beds and
- >medical staff detained and assaulted in raids.
-
- The sexual abuse that you are talking about, is perpetrated by the
- terrorists on the common populace. They have in fact, been so much
- responsible for the degeneration of the "struggle" in Kashmir.
- They have been responsibe for so many rapes in the Valley that the
- people had to request the BSF, and CRPF, to set up bunkers there.
-
-
- >
- > "Detainees are routinely subjected to severe and prolonged
- >beating, electric shock and other forms of torture" the report
- >says. "The Asia watch P.H.R. team documented a number of cases
- >of renal failure caused by the extensive use of the roller torture
- >treatment which crushes the muscle tissue and releases toxins,
- >which cause serious and sometimes fatal, damage to the kidneys."
-
- These things are being done by the terrorists on accusing any of the
- people of being informers, and to find out troop movement in their
- localities.
-
-
- > An armed rebellion has been growing in the Kashmir Valley since
- >1989,prompting harsh retaliatory measures from New Delhi,which
- >accuses Pakistan of fomenting terrorism in the disputed territory.
- >Kashmir has been under martial law since 1990,with all civil
- >rights suspended and troops empowered to shoot on sight during
- >curfews.
-
- Well you are talking about what happens in Pakistan, and not what is
- happening in India. The only truth is your allegation is that, there
- is a long period of curfew etc. and that is necessary to enable comb
- and search operations. Also the allegations about the raping of the
- womenfolk is also untrue, since simply because many of the womenfolk
- carry arms, for the militants and they have been searched the forces
- are getting accused of raping them.
-
- >
- >Kashmiris are predominantly Muslims, and most Indians are Hindu
- >but the dispute is not a religious one. It has its roots in poli-
- >tical and economic alienation, residents of the valley say.
-
- How did they become Muslims in the first place. Are you aware of that
- well no, since decades back there was the Pathan invasion and all the
- Hindu families were massacred, and most converted to Islam and all of
- the Hindu families except for 12 have been wiped out. Hence there are
- only 12 Hindu surnames, where once there were almost hundreds. It's a
- fact that in the Valley, Islam has indeed spread by the force of the
- sword. However, I agree with you that the conflict is not necessarily
- a religious conflict, but is due to the fact that the Kashmiriyat has
- been overshadowed by other things. That was a mistake of both the GOI
- as well as successive Kashmir Govts.
-
-
- >The separatists have wide middle class support as well as the
- >backing of virtually all political factions in neighboring Pakistan
- >Which has controlled another part of the former princely state
- >of Kashmir.
-
- Well that has been exploded as a myth. The so-called "support" to the
- terrorists is solely due to a fear psychosis and that has also caused
- the alienation of other communities, like the Ladakhi Buddhists, and
- Kashmiri Pandits. In case it would have been a strictly political and
- economical struggle it would not have been what it is now and neither
- would have been Pakistan supporting it.
-
-
- >Although the Indian Government bars official visits to Kashmir by
- >international rights organizations, representatives from Asia
- >Watch and physicians for Human rights were able to travel in the
- >valley as tourists for a week, interviewing victims or relatives
- >of security operations in Srinagar the Kashmiri summer capital,
- >and other towns.
-
- Human Rights groups are not barred from anywhere in India. It is only
- explained to the groups that, their security cannot be guaranteed in
- such terrorist infested areas.
-
-
- >"In one case four students who were arrested during a search
- >operation on Oct. 14 in the Dal gate area of Srinagar were shot
- >dead that night and their bodies handed over to the families
- >the next day." according to the preliminary report made available
- >to the New York Times."The security forces also broke up peaceful
- >protests against these killings by beating, tear-gassing and
- >shooting demonstrators."
-
- What had actually happened was that, the youths were shot dead by the
- terrorists, and their bodies discovered by the security forces, and
- were handed over to their families.
-
-
- >Among other incidents investigated by the two organization's
- >representatives were these:
- >On Oct. 1, after an attack by militants on a patrol near the
- >village of Bathekut, in which one soldier died, troops"rampaged
- >through the village, killing 10 villagers, raping 4 women and
- >burning houses and grain stores."
-
- Again a very untrue and wrong statement here. The villagers were killed
- in the crossfire between the terrorists and the soldiers, after one of
- the soldiers had been killed by the terrorists in that attack. Use of
- people as human shields by the terrorists is one of the most common and
- brutal form of savagery the terrorists have been heaping on the common
- man in Kashmir.
-
-
- > On Oct. 15, a man and women were burned alive in the town of
- >Badgam after Border Security Forces troops locked them in their
- >shop and set fire to it.
-
- This incident has been the responsibility of the terrorits of the Hijb-
- Ul-Mujahideen and there is more than enough evidence of it.
-
-
- >In a search operation by an army unit near Shopian, also on Oct
- >15, eight women and 11 year old girl were raped the human right
- >groups were told.
-
- No doubt under the pressure of the terrorists.
-
-
- >
- >ISLAM ZINDABAD
- >PAKISTAN PAINDABAD
-
- Further evidence of Pakistani propaganda. Need we say more!!!
-
- Regards,
- Vivek.
-
- --
- vivek@cscihp.ecst.csuchico.edu (Vivek R. Prabhu),
- Research Assistant, Systems Engineering Lab., Dept. Of Computer Science,
- School Of Engineering, Computer Science And Technology,
- California State University, Chico, California.
-