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- From: merchant@davidsys.com (Rukhsana Merchant)
- Newsgroups: soc.culture.pakistan
- Subject: Re: CFV: soc.religion.islam.ahmadiyya moderated
- Message-ID: <1992Nov18.175740.30661@davidsys.com>
- Date: 18 Nov 92 17:57:39 PST
- References: <1e3eaiINNggu@CURIE.SYSTEMSY.CS.YALE.EDU> <Bxu60p.KA6@ccu.umanitoba.ca> <1992Nov17.175130@IASTATE.EDU>
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- In article <1992Nov17.175130@IASTATE.EDU>, jakhan@IASTATE.EDU (Javed Ahmed Khan) writes:
- >
- > However I still believe that the name of the group "...islam.ahmadiyya"
- > sufficiently differentiates it from what you would call pure islam. Also as I
-
- It is the ahmadiyya group who themselves claim to be a different religion
- from the rest of Islam. They claim, the muslims believe such and such and
- the ahmediyyas believe such and such. The Muslims have the Sunnah of Prophet
- Muhammed (SAW) to believe such and such. If the Ahmedis believe something
- else, what is their source to believe such and such. If it is not the Sunnah,
- then they should reflect why it is not so. But it is part of the sunnah
- that is some of their source. However, it is only A part of the Sunnah that
- is their source. Accept *all* of the Sunnah and there can be no doubt
- why Islam is Islam, and the Ahmediyya cannot claim to be the same religion.
- The pure Islam is that of following and abiding by the Holy Quran and
- the Sunnah of Prophet Muhammed (SAW). *ALL* Muslims have to strive to
- follow the teachings of the Holy Quran and the Sunnah.
- It is very, very, clear.
-
- May Allah (swt) give all the Muslims, Hidaaya', knowledge,
- and the strive to learn what IS Islam and what SHOULD be
- their duties. Amin.
-
- > said earlier, use of the names "islam" or "muslim" by any one does not deprive
-
- No muslim can deny their claim to call themselves 'Muslims'. But *all*
- Muslims have to follow Prophet Muhammed (SAW) for he is the perfect
- example and transmitter of the Holy Qur'an. Allah (swt) has asked this
- of us. Those who are servants of Allah (swt) ie. Muslims are required
- to follow Prophet Muhammed (SAW).
-
- Say (O Muhammed), "If you do love Allah, follow me; Allah will
- love and forgive you your sins; for Allah is Oft-Forgiving,
- Most Merciful." Al-e-Imran 3:31.
-
- By the Lord! They can have no faith, until they make you
- (O Muhammed) judge in all disputes between them, and find
- in their souls no resistance against your decisions, but
- accept them with fullest conviction. Al Nisa 4:65.
-
- Whosoever obeys the Allah and His Prophet is in the company
- of those on whom is the Grace of Allah. Al Nisa 4:69.
-
- Whosoever obeys the Prophet, has indeed obeyed Allah.
- Al Nisa 4:79.
-
- Whosoever opposes the Prophet after the truth has become
- manifest unto him, and follows a way other than that of the
- believers, We shall let him follow that to which he has
- turned and shall (in the end) roast him in (the Fire of)
- Hell; an evil retreat. Al Nisa 4:115.
-
- O you who believe! Put not yourselves forward before Allah
- and His Messenger (Muhammed), but fear Allah, for Allah is
- He who hears and knows all things. O you who believe,
- Raise not your voices about the voice of the Prophet, nor speak
- aloud to him in talk, as you may speak aloud to one another,
- lest your deeds become vain and you do not (even) percieve (it).
- Al Hujurat 49: 1-2.
-
-
- > any group of any privileges or cause any harm. The only "harm" being caused is
-
- Prophet Muhammed (SAW) said:
- None of you [truly] believes until he wishes for his brother
- what he wishes for himself.
- It was related by al-Bukahri and Muslim.
-
- Prophet Muhammed (SAW) said:
- A Muslim is the brother of a Muslim.
- It was related by Muslim.
-
- > the "mental agony" being suffered which seems more self-inflicted.
-
- Prophet Muhammed (SAW) said: Be in the world as though you
- were a stranger of a wayfarer.
- al-Bukhari.
-
- This world is to be lived in merely as a traveller, a passer by. Whether,
- the group gets created or not, does not affect Allah(swt). Allah(swt)
- is Self-sufficient. But our every action and intention does affect
- what is to be our final destiny. We are created for the sole purpose
- to serve Allah (swt). And we please Him by serving Him.
- It is every Muslim's duty to enjoin right and forbid wrong.
-
- Prophet Muhammed (SAW) said:
- Whosoever of you sees an evil action, let him change it
- with his hand; and if he is not able to do so, then with
- his tongue; and if he is not able to do so, then with his
- heart - and that is the weakest of faith.
- It was related by Muslim.
-
-
- Prophet Muhammed (SAW) said:
- He who innovates something in this matter of ours that is
- not of it will be rejected.
- It was related by al-Bukhari and Muslim.
-
-
- Prophet Muhammed (SAW) said:
- Beware of newly invented matters, for every invented matter
- is an innovation and every innovation is a going astray,
- and every going astray is in Hell-fire.
- It was related by Abu Dawud and at-Tirmidhi who
- said it was a good and sound Hadith.
-
-
- Prophet Muhammed (SAW) said:
- None of you [truly] believes until his inclination is in
- accordance with what I have brought.
- A good and sound Hadith which has been transmitted from
- Kitab al-Hujja with a sound chain of authorities.
-
- >
- > I wouldn't deprive anyone the right to contest the Ahmadiyya claim, however,
- > just as the Ahmadiyya's have a similar right, as long as the debate is purely
- > intellectual and verbal.
- >
- > In any case if a "muslim" thinks what he/she practices in or believes in is
- > what (s)he calls "islam" then its his/her privilege to do so. Only God (if there
- > is such an entity) will decide whether they have been following the "true"
- > Quran.
-
- Only Allah (swt) has Sovereignty over all things.
- >
- >
- >
- > --Javed.
-
-
- May ALLAH (SWT) forgive me if I have said anything wrong. If anything
- good is made out of all written here, it is from the Blessings of
- ALLAH (SWT), and if anything wrong, it is from my own wrong doing.
-
- Rukhsana [a servant of ALLAH (swt)] Merchant
-
-