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- From: ahmed-shakil@cs.yale.edu (Shakil Waiz Ahmed)
- Newsgroups: soc.culture.pakistan,soc.culture.bangladesh
- Subject: Re: CFV: soc.religion.islam.ahmadiyya moderated
- Date: 18 Nov 1992 12:34:28 -0500
- Organization: Yale University Computer Science Dept., New Haven, CT 06520-2158
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- References: <1992Nov18.163444.13065@tamsun.tamu.edu>
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- In article <1992Nov18.163444.13065@tamsun.tamu.edu>, gagrawal@cs.tamu.edu (Gopal Agrawal) writes:
- > In article <1ebrtkINNodb@CURIE.SYSTEMSY.CS.YALE.EDU> ahmed-shakil@cs.yale.edu (Shakil Waiz Ahmed) writes:
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- > >I don't even have a problem with their *believing* that, even though I
- > >think it is inconsistent with their own beliefs. What I *do* have a
- > >problem with is their publicly associating with Muslims under the same
- > ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
- > >umbrella as would be the case if the newsgroup were approved under
- > >that name. It would make things so much simpler to take on
- > >soc.religion.ahmadiya, just like the Bahais did with their group.
-
- > Boy! We are really going in circles here. Why should one try to hide
- > their identity (irrespective of whether it is a true/false sense of
- > identity) ? Why should'nt they publicly declare it so if they really
- > believe they are muslims ? I fully agree that their beliefs may be
- > inconsistent by your standards and perhaps even by my standards if I
- > analyzed their beliefs (but so are many of the beliefs of muslims
- > by the standards of people belonging to other religions). However, that
- > still does not seem to be any valid reason to not permit them to call
- > themselves whatever they want to unless it poses a danger to your set
- > of beliefs in any way. Does it ?
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- Circles? Geez, some people really aren't reading the articles... I
- have shown very clearly how the Ahmadiya claim to being Muslim
- violates the very definition of Islam itself. If you can show
- otherwise, do so. Otherwise, please refrain from circular arguing
- which avoids the real issues.
-
- -- Shakil
-