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- From: ksand@apple.com (Kent Sandvik )
- Subject: Re: Keskustelua suomalaisten asemasta Ruotsissa
- Sender: news@gallant.apple.com
- Message-ID: <ksand-231192194832@wintermute.apple.com>
- Date: Tue, 24 Nov 1992 03:51:14 GMT
- References: <By0EwJ.8xx@news.chalmers.se> <1992Nov20.124654.19843@jyu.fi> <ksand-211192115958@wintermute.apple.com> <1992Nov23.095646.21950@cs.hut.fi>
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- In article <1992Nov23.095646.21950@cs.hut.fi>, f33012l@puukko.hut.fi (Janne
- Kivel{) wrote:
- > ksand@apple.com (Kent Sandvik ) writes:
- >
- > >It's the issue of immigration and people that have lived in the
- > >same country since Medieval ages and before. I don't mind that Finns in
- > >Sweden will start pushing for a bi-langual country, some time in
- > >year 2800 A.D. You can't just move to another country and take it
- > >over, you have to earn the rights for your culture. If this wasn't
- > >the case most borders would be closed, including the Swedish-Finnish
- > >one. There's a reason behind immigration, in the case of Finns
- > >that moved to Sweden it had to do with jobs and a higher living
- > >of standard. If you immigrated, you made a choice, and you should
- > >be *thankful* that the country accepted you -- instead of demanding
- > >everything between heaven and earth.
- >
- > Don't you think Sweden should be thankful to Finnish immigrants for the work
- > they did for Swedish industry? I don't mean that Sweden has treated Finnish
- > immigrants badly, but Kent Sandvik only seems to tell one side of the story
- > in his postings. Kent also neglects the fact that there has always been
- > Finnish-speakers within Swedish borders unlike serbocroat-speakers.
-
- I agree Swedes should be thankful for the highly trained workforce
- they got from Finland. However, if you are an immigrant, you have
- a priviledge to stay in a country, and so you have a responsibility
- towards the country that accepted you as well. You can't just demand
- everything, when the biggest offer the country provided you was
- the allowance to live there. You have to *earn* your rights, and
- not just bluntly demand them.
-
- I agree that there are Finns living just across the border, and Swedes
- that live in Finland just across the border as well. However I do
- think we are dealing with the majority level issues, in other words
- 500k+ Finnish immigrants living in Sweden, and 300k+ Swedish speaking
- Finnish citizens. So I agree, I don't take into account all the small
- villages across the Finnish/Swedish border up in the North :-).
-
- Kent
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