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- From: fester@island.COM (Mike Fester)
- Subject: Re: Fusion (was RE: Plutonium)
- Message-ID: <1992Nov19.164359.2208@island.COM>
- Keywords: cold fusion?
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- Date: Thu, 19 Nov 1992 16:43:59 GMT
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- In article <1e9nfeINNfq2@agate.berkeley.edu> jcliu@four-lab4.Berkeley.EDU (James C. Liu) writes:
- >Cold fusion, if true, would more than likely through out some pretty
- >fundamental theories we have on materials thermodynamics, nuclear
- >physics, fusion confinement, etc. These have been tested over and over
- >and verified by countless experiments and they are consistent with our
- >present knowledge of the physical world.
-
- >I am skeptical of cold fusion because there is a huge amount of data
- >which backs up our present theories about physics...remember, this is
- >objective scientific data and not something like Sociology stats.
- >However, there are a host of plausible reasons why you might observe
- >something like cold fusion. The 3 I can think of right away are:
- > 1) uncalibrated neutron detectors (Georgia Tech snafu)
- > 2) uncertainty in calorimetric data (Stanford snafu)
- > 3) tritium tainted palladium source (half of all experiments in world)
-
- Just curious here, but what "present theories" would need to be modified to
- account for cold fusion? As I understand it, to get to suitable nuclei to fuse,
- you need to get them into a certain close proximity for a certain minimum time.
- For atoms, (eg, H or D) the first problem is overcoming electron-electron
- repulsion. Assuming that you are operating on a catalytic surface, the
- electrons can be effectively stripped off. You are now left with nuclear
- repulsions. This can be in part masked by the metallic catalyst. The questions,
- as I understand it, are then a) what is the critical minimum distance for
- fusion? b) can catalytic surfaces be sufficient to bring appropriate nuclei
- to within this critical distance? After that, of course, there's a practical
- question of whether or not this can be done on a larger scale, but if the
- first two, and perhaps other, questions can be answered, this is a matter of
- engineering.
-
- So, if the problem is NOT as I describe it above, what am I missing here?
-
- Mike
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