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- From: bhatnagr@ucunix.san.uc.edu (Raj Bhatnagar)
- Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian,soc.culture.pakistan,soc.culture.bangladesh
- Subject: Re: CFV: soc.religion.islam.ahmadiyya moderated
- Message-ID: <Bxw84H.4Gv@ucunix.san.uc.edu>
- Date: 18 Nov 92 03:53:05 GMT
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- In article <dogar.722025866@opal4> dogar@rtsg.mot.com (Haroon H. Dogar) writes:
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- >I bet y'all thought that you had seen it all didn't ya? :-)
-
-
- Oh yeaaaah!
-
- And you thought that if somebody advocates tolerance of distinct
- religions he/she must also tolerate politics of separation, murder,
- persecution etc. as long as it is hidden in the garb of "religion"?
-
-
- No. Sir. No No No Noooooooooooo.
-
-
- >Here we have one of the greatest defenders of Hindu chauvanism,
- ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
-
- and you thought the destruction of Hindu civilization can be
- justified in the name of politico-cultural objectives of
- religion(Islam). Sir, the boundary of a religion extends *only* as
- far as the relationship of a human with his/her God/Maker is
- concerned. Creations of Dar-ul-Islams is not religion, it is
- politics, and when you dub the opponents of this politics as
- "hindu Chauvinists" all you are doing is to very cleverly hide
- your political objectives behind the shield of religion. And
- that won't do now, even if it had worked in the past.
-
-
- >apologist for...nay denier of... the genocide in Kashmir,
-
- Apologist for the genocide in Kashmir? Are you thinking of
- Pakistani support for the terrorism and holding me responsible
- for the training and supplies of the terrorists? You sure are
- mistaken Sir, once again!
-
- >unsympathetic to the complaints of the Sikhs,
-
- Oh yeah? Are these keyboard-dreams or what, emanating from
- under your name?
-
- >unaware of the
- >sufferings of the Muslims,
-
- And I thought the noble thing to do was to pray
-
- "sarve bhavantu sukhina sarve santu niramaya
- sarve bhadrani pashyantu, maa kashchid dukh bhaag bhavet"
-
- and your polarised vision sees no humans in this world other than
- the Muslims. may Allah give you non-polarised vision, pronto!
-
- >desiring the destruction of the
- >Babri Masjid and who knows what other Muslim holy sites,
-
- No. Not destruction, but only a move to a nearby site, Or
- preferably, an acceptance by all indians that no dar-ul-herbs
- need to be carved out of India.
-
-
- >calling for the forced reunification of Pakistan, Bangladesh, and India,
-
- Isn't unity a good India, O messenger of divisions!
-
- >demanding that Muslims not feel any affinity for Arabia or
- >for other Muslims but only for "Hindu" India and other Indians .....
-
- Oh no. I don't demand that for all Muslims, only for all Indians.
- And is there any thing wrong in it?
-
- >........... now trying to present himself as "tolerant." :-)
-
-
- May be it should be made very clear - -
-
- tolerant of religious freedom and extremely intolerant of
- any persecution carried out in the name of religion.
- Is that clear now?
-
-
-
- >Raj Bhai, I don't know how other nettors feel, but as for me ...
- >well when it comes to the subject of tolerance, you have a *bit*
- >of a credibility problem. :-)
-
-
- No, sir. its not my credibility, its your polarised vision which
- looks at the whole world thru the glasses of political structures
- of Muslims-vs-dhimmis.
-
- >
- >-hd
-
-
-
- ---raj
-