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- From: ptg2351@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Panos Tamamidis )
- Subject: Re: Scopjian Flag
- References: <BxxJEz.3u9@news.cso.uiuc.edu> <Bxyoz9.J8A@gabriel.keele.ac.uk>
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- Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
- Date: Thu, 19 Nov 1992 19:42:53 GMT
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- cla04@seq1.keele.ac.uk (A.T. Fear) writes:
-
- >From article <BxxJEz.3u9@news.cso.uiuc.edu>, by ptg2351@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Panos Tamamidis ):
- >> cla04@seq1.keele.ac.uk (A.T. Fear) writes:
- >>
- >> The arguments of Prof. Borza are simply laughable. The only way that this
- >> person can receive some credit is by trying to prove that the ancient
- >> Macedonians were not Greek. There is little novelty in proving that
- >> they were Greek.
- >> This is how prof. Borza makes his living. He has not made a single
- >> contribution to anything related to ancient Macedonians.
-
- >Basically the above seems to saying the following: I hold the following
- >statement 'The Ancient Macedonians were Greek' as an item of faith. I
- >will not engage in any argument about this, any 'contribution' to the
- >subject must be one which confirms my prior prejudices. If someone
- >presents the opposite point of view I shall ignore it, especially if he
- >argues from a complex position. Sad really as I would of thought that
- >one of the greatest contributions Greek philosophy made to the world was
- >to show us the need to question our prejudices and bigotries and that
- >the world is often not as simple as it seems.
-
- I do not ignore different arguments. I only ignore silly arguments, which
- are not based on historical evidence. Speculations are by no means
- historical evidence. I have questioned the motives of persons who are
- trying to make their living by benefiting from a political situation.
-
- The arguments that you have presented so far, are a collection of isolated
- clues or hints. By continuously ignoring solid historical evidence, and
- by hypothesizing on things that you want to prove, you are only discrediting
- yourself and your profession.
-
- >Sad really as I would of thought that
- >one of the greatest contributions Greek philosophy made to the world was
- >to show us the need to question our prejudices and bigotries and that
- >the world is often not as simple as it seems.
-
- You thought correctly, but you haven't practiced it the right way. The need
- to question should not be a one-way process. It is disappointing to see
- a person, who wants to teach us the spirit of ancient Greeks, trying to
- pour ridicule on everything that the Greek side presents and, in the
- contrary, ignore everything that the Skopjean side claims.
-
- >Andy
-
- Panos Tamamidis
-